Topic: Hello in there...

Hey all,

    Detman101 checking in here. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and let everyone know that things are going great. I've been studying Jimi Hendrix for the past 5-6 months and trying to figure out his technique. Well, I have the technique down for the most part.

I also....FINALLY....got a real guitar teacher for a month. I had four hour long lessons on guitar music theory with a little technique and stuff thrown in. My guitar teacher was excellent and I'll probably go back after the summer and have another set of lessons more focused on the blues.

So now I'm working on converting playing all the songs I knew into using the Hendrix-grip (Since it's easier and frankly better sounding).  Combining the Hendrix-grip technique with the music theory I have learned has helped me come up with better songs and allowed for better expression when just fooling around or when playing at church.

And that leads to the only downer I've experienced in the time I've been away...

Since I've been playing better and more expressively I've encountered even more bullcrap from the rest of the musicians in church. Their first shot was complaining that my Fender amp was making a hissing noise when plugged into the mixing board. (Duh...its a Fender amp!) So I fixed that by unplugging from the board and turning the amp up.

Their next issue was that I was playing too loud. I told them that if I'm not plugged into the house that it's the only way to compensate. So I miced the amp and turned it down.

Their follow-up complaint was that I was playing in the house and the mic was picking up everything from the people sitting near the audio booth.  So I bought an XLR to 1/4" cable and plugged that from my guitar and pedals directly into the board but only routed through the rear speakers amplifier.

Then they complained that they could still hear me playing in their headphone monitors. At that point I got upset and told them to reroute their frickin headphone monitors or deal with it. Unfortunately, I told them loudly and in front of the whole bloody church during bible study. I was reprimanded for that.

So, I rerouted my signal out of the rear speakers amplifer (which seemed to be on the same signal path as their headphone monitors) and put it on the same line as the house speakers.

No complaints. However, I can't hear what I'm playing because I'm at the rear of the church (at the audio booth) and everything is setup at the front of the church....including the house speakers. So everything I hear is literally delayed 1/4 to 1/2 a second before my ears hear it.
But...whatever...I'm playing....enduring the bullcrap...and enjoying what I'm playing. It's also a lot easier not having to lug my amp in every sunday.

I am resisting being a total jerk to them and cutting them out of the mix in the audio. I could be a real jackalope but I don't want to mess with church. I'll stop playing there completely and walk away from the audio section before I do that. Then they can manage it all on their own and I can sit with my wife and son at church.

But that's been my past few months.
I pray that everyone's doing well. I'm on vacation in Ocean City right now and we have had a GREAT week and a half here. Going home tomorrow is going to be rough...lol

Take care,
Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

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Good for you Detman,

You are a dedicated guitar player and I'm glad your doing well. The church stuff will work itself out or maybe you will move on to something bigger and better.

Later, Wayne P

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It was good getting in touch with you again earlier today Damien.  We're hoping to have the basement remodel finished in April.  Afterwards, I'd love to have a jamm session to break it in right with laughter and song.  I'll definitely let you know when that's going on, and see if Jeff can come around again too.  Maybe a couple of the church guys and fishing guys will fall on by.  April the fishing guys will probably be on the water...

- Zurf

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

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Awesome!
I'm available when you're available man.
Another get together would be soooo awesome.
I will bring the HD camera from work next time.

=]
Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

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Ohhhh.... I had a whole reply for this that was rather amusing... alas, I've decided it's bound to tick someone off... so I will leave it out!  smile  Good for you DM for being SOOOOO patient with the "pushies" (pushies - people that insist you must do them a favor THEIR way).

Hendrix grip... hmmm... I might have to do a little reading about this.  Do you have any info?  Links online?  No doubt when I do a google search I'll find a ton of info... anything that's EASIER will make me happy!  smile

Art and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder.
What constitutes excellent music is in the ears of the listener.

Re: Hello in there...

Detman101 wrote:

Hey all,

    Detman101 checking in here. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and let everyone know that things are going great. I've been studying Jimi Hendrix for the past 5-6 months and trying to figure out his technique. Well, I have the technique down for the most part.

I also....FINALLY....got a real guitar teacher for a month. I had four hour long lessons on guitar music theory with a little technique and stuff thrown in. My guitar teacher was excellent and I'll probably go back after the summer and have another set of lessons more focused on the blues.

So now I'm working on converting playing all the songs I knew into using the Hendrix-grip (Since it's easier and frankly better sounding).  Combining the Hendrix-grip technique with the music theory I have learned has helped me come up with better songs and allowed for better expression when just fooling around or when playing at church.

And that leads to the only downer I've experienced in the time I've been away...

Since I've been playing better and more expressively I've encountered even more bullcrap from the rest of the musicians in church. Their first shot was complaining that my Fender amp was making a hissing noise when plugged into the mixing board. (Duh...its a Fender amp!) So I fixed that by unplugging from the board and turning the amp up.

Their next issue was that I was playing too loud. I told them that if I'm not plugged into the house that it's the only way to compensate. So I miced the amp and turned it down.

Their follow-up complaint was that I was playing in the house and the mic was picking up everything from the people sitting near the audio booth.  So I bought an XLR to 1/4" cable and plugged that from my guitar and pedals directly into the board but only routed through the rear speakers amplifier.

Then they complained that they could still hear me playing in their headphone monitors. At that point I got upset and told them to reroute their frickin headphone monitors or deal with it. Unfortunately, I told them loudly and in front of the whole bloody church during bible study. I was reprimanded for that.

So, I rerouted my signal out of the rear speakers amplifer (which seemed to be on the same signal path as their headphone monitors) and put it on the same line as the house speakers.

No complaints. However, I can't hear what I'm playing because I'm at the rear of the church (at the audio booth) and everything is setup at the front of the church....including the house speakers. So everything I hear is literally delayed 1/4 to 1/2 a second before my ears hear it.
But...whatever...I'm playing....enduring the bullcrap...and enjoying what I'm playing. It's also a lot easier not having to lug my amp in every sunday.

I am resisting being a total jerk to them and cutting them out of the mix in the audio. I could be a real jackalope but I don't want to mess with church. I'll stop playing there completely and walk away from the audio section before I do that. Then they can manage it all on their own and I can sit with my wife and son at church.

But that's been my past few months.
I pray that everyone's doing well. I'm on vacation in Ocean City right now and we have had a GREAT week and a half here. Going home tomorrow is going to be rough...lol

Take care,
Dm

There's no pleasing some people

Everything is bad including me
But being bad is good policy
Reverend Horton Heat

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DM....you're going down the right road. I admire you dedication to self improvement as a musician. Don't let negativity or folks who don't get "it" derail you.

I can tell from your posts that you "get it"...what playing is all about. People or musicians who don't get that don't get "it" or you. In's hard to say forget 'em in the church setting but sometimes it's the appropriate response....Keep on  growing and doing what makes you smile.

I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.
Elvis Costello

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We all know negative people will drag you down.  Get away from the negative people and introduce positive people into your life.  Easier said than done, but hey.........  It all depends what you allow life to throw at you.  And good luck.

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mekidsmom wrote:

Ohhhh.... I had a whole reply for this that was rather amusing... alas, I've decided it's bound to tick someone off... so I will leave it out!  smile  Good for you DM for being SOOOOO patient with the "pushies" (pushies - people that insist you must do them a favor THEIR way).

Hendrix grip... hmmm... I might have to do a little reading about this.  Do you have any info?  Links online?  No doubt when I do a google search I'll find a ton of info... anything that's EASIER will make me happy!  smile

Yep!!
The best tutorial I've found on youtube is right here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqK6w9_ltjI

If you're interested in seeing my video log of my progress check out my videos.
http://www.youtube.com/detman101
It's the series called "Hendrix Trials"

I've gotten lots better since "Hendrix Trials - 4" but I haven't posted my progress since that video.
Though you can see where I'm heading by the latter half of the video when I start experimenting...

Toodles,
Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

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DM that's pretty awesome!  Now... I know once I learn some scales and where the notes are along the neck, I'm going to try this before traditional bar chords!  Thank you very much for sharing!  My son watched the vids with me and I have a feeling he's going to be grabbing his electric today and trying this out a bit!  smile

Art and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder.
What constitutes excellent music is in the ears of the listener.

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Awesome. I hope that you can get as much and more out of the technique as I have.
It has made playing for extended periods much much easier and given my creativity a kick in the pants that I've not experienced before.

And being able to play Hendrix & John Mayer songs is fun too...lol.


=]
Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle