Tips for beginners (Seriously, Read this, it will help you alot) (Page 2 of 2)

I don't need help from anyone on anything, especially not from someone who thinks Martin is a bad guitar, because they obviously don't know what they are talking about.

Oubass: Did by chance you retire due to good fortune in the music industry?

bidjindustriez: If you are touting Martins so much, do you own one? or just your Yamaha?

Bootlegger.

Bootlegger guitars.

<b>"hey mr moderator....can we send these two off somewhere by themselves?....."</b>

Now, now.  I really think you ought to take the time to actually read the posts in this thread before popping up and using the phrase "these two" and trying to set yourself up as duty stool pigeon to the moderators.  I certainly haven't been in any way unpleasant.  On the contrary, I've been a paragon of self control in the face of some very unfortunate outbursts of temper from bigdjindustriez.  My initial comments were made because I felt that some of what bigdjindustriez had to say might prove very discouraging to beginning guitarists, and objected to his characterizing some people as "idiots" for the way they've chosen to learn guitar, and as a public service to the beginners, corrected him.

Perhaps Mr. Moderator should send YOU off somewhere for calling for heads without reading the posts and knowing the situation first.  Here I try to influence someone to maintain a proper community spirit and not discourage others, demonstrating on my own part a genuinely benevolent community spirit toward my fellow forum members, and you're including me as a miscreant?  Not very sporting of you, I'm afraid.  Do you frequently pop up in forums and immediately start calling for moderator action without really having any grounds?  Now that's a particulalry malignant form of trolling.  You really shouldn't do that.

Oubaas  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif" border=0 alt="Very Happy">

<img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_cool.gif" border=0 alt="Cool"> I didn't care for Yamaha,  until someone gave me one as a gift.  The coating is a little thick,  but I don't mind it.  One of my original guitars was a YAMAKI.  Now that was a fine sounding instrument.  My  brother J P had a martin custom.  Cost him fifteen thousand.  It began to disintigrate while he was playing it on stage.  He's heavy handed.  He uses a tortoise shell pick given to him by Doc Watson at the Winfield flat top picking contest.  As to coated strings,  I gotta say they last a long time.  Mine have been on for two years now,  and still have their tone!  But like you say,  to each their own. The kibitzing back and forth was quite amusing though.  You have some very valid points,  that I fully respect.

If you already have an acoustic guitar, Don't get an electric guitar (until you learn acoustic first) thats the best advice I can give you.  Playing an electric guitar is easy, therefore if you learn on an electric and want to play an acoustic later, you won't be able to...not well anyways.  Playing the acoustic will strengthen your fingers and give you the feel for the frets. 

How long did you say you've been playing???

I don't wanna sound rude here, but all my friends who've been playing the guitar for years tell me that the best advice they can give a beginner is to learn to play the electric guitar first.

Not only will this give the 'learning stage' a boost, but it will also help toughen up those fingertips until you start to play the acoustic guitar, which can save lots of frusteration in the end.  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_razz.gif" border=0 alt="Razz">

So tell me...who am i to believe?  <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_confused.gif" border=0 alt="Confused">

Actually I learnned on an electric and then bought an accustic to play outside and at coffee houses and such. I had no problem. The only thing I had to get used to was that accustics are generally bulkier and lighter than electrics. If only I would have had someone there to tell me...then I could have bought into the B.S. myths that surround the whole electric vs accustic debate. How did I miss it? Where was I? What in the world was I doing????Oh yeah I remember...I was making music on whatever instrument I had in my hand. Sure wish you would have been there to set me straight!!!

                                 - Mike

"Nobody paints by ear so why would I play guitar by sight?"

When are you people gonna stop it with the jealousy and realize Elixir makes the best strings going? it's getting old...

Marshall makes a good amp, but ibanez is usually not very good.  If you can afford a Marshall amp, you can probably afford a medium end fender guitar..or not, not my place to say.

ibanez may have made a fairly good electric a long time ago, but now they are cheapo guitars.

Wow.

I have been playing about a year and a half. Learned on a Mexi-Strat and just bought an Ibanez Acoustic with a fishman pickup.

Dude, the Ibanez is a really nice guitar for the money. You guys toss around the $800-900 price point like anyone can do it. Remember most people here will NEVER make a dime from their playing or cut a record. I play for enjoyment, and dropping an extra $500 for a name is crazy if you can get the sound <u>YOU</u>want for less. It is all personal preference.

Also, learning on the electric and transitioning to acoustic was not an issue. I have had my acoustic for...lets see...three days and I can play it as well as my Strat which has Ultra light strings. Again, it is all personal preference. I bought the acoustic that fit my playing style, the action I like and my smallish hands.

Lets not bust chops on preferences. It is pointless and only leads to pissing matches where everyone laughs at everyone else. OK maybe that means it isn't totally pointless!