Topic: Blues question...

WWhat do you have to have gone thru to play the blues??
I mean, I've had some problems in my life but nothing that God hasn't fixed.
I feel like I don't have that "Soul" or whatever it is that allows a person to play the blues.
Everything I play sounds so formulaic and patterned.

=-[
Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

Re: Blues question...

Here's a post I read on another forum that may help (credit to ljguitar on the AGF). I've also read that your guitar must be purchased from a pawn shop in order to get the proper blues tone.


How To Play And Sing The Blues

    * Most Blues begin with: "Woke up this morning..."
    * "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues unless you stick something nasty in the next line like "I got a good woman with the meanest face in town."
    * The Blues is simple.
    * After you get the first line right, repeat it.
    * Then find something that rhymes, sort of: "Got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Yes, I got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher, and she weighs 500 pounds."
    * The Blues is not about choice. You're stuck in a ditch, you're stuck in a ditch. There ain't no way out.
    * Blues cars: Chevys, Fords, Cadillacs and broken-down trucks. Blues don't travel in Volvos, BMWs, or SUVs. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train.
    * Jet aircraft and state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running.
    * Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die.
    * Teenagers and kids can't sing the Blues. They ain't fixin' to die yet. Adults sing the Blues. In Blues, "adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.
    * Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or anyplace in Canada. Hard times in Minneapolis or Seattle is probably just clinical depression. Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City are still great places to have the Blues.
    * You cannot have the blues anyplace that don't get rain.
    * A man with male pattern baldness ain't the Blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg 'cause you were skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg 'cause a alligator is chomping on it is.
    * You can't have no Blues in an office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go out to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.


Good places for the Blues:

   1. highway
   2. jailhouse
   3. empty bed
   4. bottom of a whiskey glass

Bad places for the Blues:

   1. Nordstrom's
   2. gallery openings
   3. Ivy League colleges
   4. golf courses


No one will believe it's the Blues if you wear a suit, 'less you happen to be an old ethnic person, and you slept in it.

Do you have the right to sing the Blues?
Yes, if:

   1. you're older than dirt
   2. you're blind
   3. you shot a man in Memphis
   4. you can't be satisfied

No, if:

   1. you have all your teeth
   2. you were once blind but now can see
   3. the man in Memphis lived
   4. you have a 401K or trust fund


Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Sonny Liston could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues.

If you ask for water and your darlin' give you gasoline, it's the Blues.
Other acceptable Blues beverages are:

   1. cheap wine
   2. whiskey or bourbon
   3. muddy water
   4. nasty black coffee

   1. The following are NOT Blues beverages:
   2. Perrier
   3. Chardonnay
   4. Snapple
   5. Slim Fast


If death occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a Blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die. So are the electric chair, substance abuse and dying lonely on a broken-down cot.

You can't have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or while getting liposuction.

Some Blues names for women:

   1. Sadie
   2. Big Mama
   3. Bessie
   4. Fat River Dumpling

17. Some Blues names for men:

   1. Joe
   2. Willie
   3. Little Willie
   4. Big Willie


Persons with names like Amber, Jennifer, Tiffany, Debbie, and Heather can't sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.

Make your own Blues name Starter Kit:

   1. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.)
   2. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, etc..)
   3. last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)

Examples: Blind Lime Jefferson, Jackleg Lemon Johnson.

Rule No. 1 - If it sounds good - it is good!

Re: Blues question...

Lol, well that was funny indeed.
And I understand why I can't play the blues.

I'm not sad..

Great...well, I guess life could be worse...

Dm

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

Re: Blues question...

Geez...I can't even do barre chord techniques.

I'm never gonna get it because of my stupid frickin left hand. Because of the way my stupid pointer finger is shaped, my G-String never gets depressed fully and I can't get any tone out of it when barring any chords. At this point I don't know whether to get surgery on my stupid frickin finger to make it fatter or something....or get a custom made guitar with a lump on the g-string part of every fret (which will of course cost a fortune).

Man, why the heck do I even bother with this stupid frickin guitar. This blessing from God is more like a curse... For every 2 steps forward I get I find another roadblock.

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

Re: Blues question...

Detman101 wrote:

Geez...I can't even do barre chord techniques.

I'm never gonna get it because of my stupid frickin left hand. Because of the way my stupid pointer finger is shaped, my G-String never gets depressed fully and I can't get any tone out of it when barring any chords. At this point I don't know whether to get surgery on my stupid frickin finger to make it fatter or something....or get a custom made guitar with a lump on the g-string part of every fret (which will of course cost a fortune).

Man, why the heck do I even bother with this stupid frickin guitar. This blessing from God is more like a curse... For every 2 steps forward I get I find another roadblock.

Just an idea but if it's only the g string that gives you trouble while barreing and it's a finger shape problem perhaps a wrap of two of tape on that point of your finger would offer some assistance....
I used to have the same trouble though with the g string and found that barreing slightly higher with my index solved the problem. That and making sure that your thumb is on the center of the back of the neck and when you barre and try to focus the pressure to the d & g strings and the others will naturally make contact. -Pix

[b][color=#FF0000]If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something.
[/color][/b]         [b]Peace of mind. That's my piece of mind...[/b]

Re: Blues question...

Thank you GuitarPix, I will try that "Pressure-Focus" technique.
I tried putting tape on my pointer finger but it messes me up when i go to play extended scales with my church band during service. And my finger started going numb from lack of circulation also.
I've been to at least 8 guitar shops and everyone is stumped at why I can't get any sound out of my barre chords on the g-string.
I guess being skinny can suck after all...

"Talent instantly recognizes genius,
but mediocrity knows nothing more than itself."

-Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle

Re: Blues question...

topdown wrote:

Here's a post I read on another forum that may help (credit to ljguitar on the AGF). I've also read that your guitar must be purchased from a pawn shop in order to get the proper blues tone.


How To Play And Sing The Blues

    * Most Blues begin with: "Woke up this morning..."
    * "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues unless you stick something nasty in the next line like "I got a good woman with the meanest face in town."
    * The Blues is simple.
    * After you get the first line right, repeat it.
    * Then find something that rhymes, sort of: "Got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Yes, I got a good woman with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher, and she weighs 500 pounds."
    * The Blues is not about choice. You're stuck in a ditch, you're stuck in a ditch. There ain't no way out.
    * Blues cars: Chevys, Fords, Cadillacs and broken-down trucks. Blues don't travel in Volvos, BMWs, or SUVs. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train.
    * Jet aircraft and state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running.
    * Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die.
    * Teenagers and kids can't sing the Blues. They ain't fixin' to die yet. Adults sing the Blues. In Blues, "adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.
    * Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or anyplace in Canada. Hard times in Minneapolis or Seattle is probably just clinical depression. Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City are still great places to have the Blues.
    * You cannot have the blues anyplace that don't get rain.
    * A man with male pattern baldness ain't the Blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg 'cause you were skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg 'cause a alligator is chomping on it is.
    * You can't have no Blues in an office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go out to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.


Good places for the Blues:

   1. highway
   2. jailhouse
   3. empty bed
   4. bottom of a whiskey glass

Bad places for the Blues:

   1. Nordstrom's
   2. gallery openings
   3. Ivy League colleges
   4. golf courses


No one will believe it's the Blues if you wear a suit, 'less you happen to be an old ethnic person, and you slept in it.

Do you have the right to sing the Blues?
Yes, if:

   1. you're older than dirt
   2. you're blind
   3. you shot a man in Memphis
   4. you can't be satisfied

No, if:

   1. you have all your teeth
   2. you were once blind but now can see
   3. the man in Memphis lived
   4. you have a 401K or trust fund


Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Sonny Liston could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues.

If you ask for water and your darlin' give you gasoline, it's the Blues.
Other acceptable Blues beverages are:

   1. cheap wine
   2. whiskey or bourbon
   3. muddy water
   4. nasty black coffee

   1. The following are NOT Blues beverages:
   2. Perrier
   3. Chardonnay
   4. Snapple
   5. Slim Fast


If death occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a Blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die. So are the electric chair, substance abuse and dying lonely on a broken-down cot.

You can't have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or while getting liposuction.

Some Blues names for women:

   1. Sadie
   2. Big Mama
   3. Bessie
   4. Fat River Dumpling

17. Some Blues names for men:

   1. Joe
   2. Willie
   3. Little Willie
   4. Big Willie


Persons with names like Amber, Jennifer, Tiffany, Debbie, and Heather can't sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.

Make your own Blues name Starter Kit:

   1. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.)
   2. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, etc..)
   3. last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)

Examples: Blind Lime Jefferson, Jackleg Lemon Johnson.

Bravo.....this is the capsulized definitive guide to the Blues. I laughed all the way through. Well done!!1

I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused.
Elvis Costello

Re: Blues question...

Hey Detman  Don't give up look what Django Reinhardt could do with just 2 working fingers
                     on his left hand...

                  Topdown ...that was funny ..thks  lol

Re: Blues question...

Thank you, topdown for that inspiring post. Got me thinkin' 'bout the blues. Been playin' 'em down South here for 50 years.
Detman101, alls you got to do to play blues is be blue. Ever been dumped by a sweetheart? Ever been lied to, cheated, ripped off by anybody? Consider even a burned finger, a stumped toe or a rude stranger.
The matter may be so slight as an itchy bug bite. You may be feeling like a good cry but decide to laugh instead.
You don't need to be old to be blue. All you need is any issue - no matter how trivial - it just has to matter to you.
Neil Diamond wrote:
Song sung blue, everybody knows one....
Me and you are subject to, the blues now and then...
Funny thing, you can sing it with a cry in your voice. All at once you get to feelin' good. You simply got no choice.

We pronounce it "Guf Coast".
Ya'll wanna go down to the Guf?

Re: Blues question...

Hey detman,there's your first subject for learning the blues. My finger screws up my barre chord blues. lol Keep practicing. Eventually you will overcome this problem or adapt to it. I've only got three working fingers on my left(chord) hand and I don't let it slow me down. I've adapted my playing style and about the only thing I can't do is play triplets unless they start from an open position. Hang in there

Don't take life too seriously, you're not getting out alive anyway

Re: Blues question...

Hey Topdown, that was the best ''answer'' to a ''question'' i have ever come across in my life. Absolutely brilliant - accolades to you. I have loved Blues music since the 60's - but now i'm starting to feel just a little bit nervous. lol.

Keep on Rocking and remember Animals Feel Pain Too.

Re: Blues question...

Well like Hendrix said, the blues is easy to PLAY...just hard to feel wink

All You Need is Love smile

Re: Blues question...

I am playing the blues at the moment - I am ethnic, I have male male pattern baldness, my life is swell, I have a family that loves me.....it's just that the blues sounds really GREAT - try a blues progression in A - E - B and do like Chuck Berry type licks and wallah! Your playing party time blues foot stompin mayhem.I loop a blues progression, and play pentatonic scales all over the neck - sound really cool - especially Doors songs! I don't know where i'd be without the blues,it's such a springboard to bigger and better things.I may try taking it too the streets.....bit of black shoe polish and a secong hand grand daddy hat should go a long way, Oh! I almost forgot .......no shoes.The fender and vox amp may give me away.........LOL. Blind One Eye Willy...LOL

"It's all about the Calluses, once you got them, you can't get rid of em!"

Re: Blues question...

Don't forget to get your blues name.

http://www.outliermusic.com/jokes_bluesname.htm

Mine is "Bony Baby King"

Someday we'll win this thing...

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Re: Blues question...

Detman101 wrote:

Thank you GuitarPix, I will try that "Pressure-Focus" technique.
I tried putting tape on my pointer finger but it messes me up when i go to play extended scales with my church band during service. And my finger started going numb from lack of circulation also.
I've been to at least 8 guitar shops and everyone is stumped at why I can't get any sound out of my barre chords on the g-string.
I guess being skinny can suck after all...

Try learning slide, that's an "authentic" blues technique.

"There's such a fine line between genius and stupidity."
                              --David St. Hubbins

Re: Blues question...

jerome.oneil wrote:

Don't forget to get your blues name.

http://www.outliermusic.com/jokes_bluesname.htm

Mine is "Bony Baby King"

Jailhouse Bradley. 


Bad To The Bone

17 (edited by evsynator 2009-02-02 21:39:56)

Re: Blues question...

it aint just "the blues" ... you got to feel that the reason you are singing or playing any song no matter what it is - is for the right reason ... it can be a simple ditty or a complex song or blues ... but to try just do the song for the songs sake is wrong ... start looking at songs you enjoy ... otherwise it will never work for you .

any resemblance to my songs sounding anything like the original is highly unlikely.

Re: Blues question...

Hi, That big Message from mr Topdown really Works!!!!
But after all, how should I play a rhythm like a real blues player?
as a matter of fact i believe blues never contains in books, i've got a book named hal leonard acoustic guitar
its about playin blues but I never can play what i want
maybe thats because i've never been in memphis to kill anyone, lol
can you help me to kill him please?

Re: Blues question...

anyone can help me?
well that long story about how to play blues was too cool and too real
but i got a problem,i've never been in memphis so how should i shoot a guy in there
besides,i think blues is about passion never gonna be limited with some lesson in some book
i got books that designed to learn blues,but its not workin' i cant creat blues rhythm.i dont believe in just playin
i believe that you can say i play blues when you write some blues song
can you help me how to learn it?

Re: Blues question...

Crippled Fingers River

A musician is someone with too much time on their hands! Thank god I'm a musician!!!

Re: Blues question...

Hey Jerome,

  My blues name is Curly Dog Parker

Keep a fire burning in your eyes
Pay attention to the open sky
You never know what will be coming down

Re: Blues question...

alexino11 wrote:

anyone can help me?
well that long story about how to play blues was too cool and too real
but i got a problem,i've never been in memphis so how should i shoot a guy in there
besides,i think blues is about passion never gonna be limited with some lesson in some book
i got books that designed to learn blues,but its not workin' i cant creat blues rhythm.i dont believe in just playin
i believe that you can say i play blues when you write some blues song
can you help me how to learn it?

Start with the basics.  Pentatonic minor scales, and I IV V three chord progressions.

Someday we'll win this thing...

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Re: Blues question...

I have a real blues name given to me by a real blues man the night I was introduced to some super-real-deal blues men.  Mine is "Baby Blues Man".  I got this name because I had just started to learn blues bass and harmonica and I was getting introduced to the likes of Anson Funderburg (who hung out long enough to fill his beer glass from my pitcher), Matt "Guitar" Murphy (whom I bought a shot of bourbon), and Sam of Sam & Dave (who left my booze alone and was wearing a suit that it did NOT look like he slept in).  The man who named me was "The Gimp." 

- Zurf

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

Re: Blues question...

mister jerome.oneil 
thanx for your hint
i tried and i will try more
Gracias amigo

Re: Blues question...

Whoever said ya cant write the blues if you live in Canada, hasn`t spent a freakin winter here!!!!

" Its much to late to do anything about rock and roll now" Jerry Garcia-Grateful Dead