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Topic: GUITAR ANGELS

We have GUITAR GODS = Clapton, Hendrix, SRV, Jeff Beck ...
But there are a lot of real good players in the "NON GOD GUITARISTS"
- David Gilmour
- Keith Richards (I would love to place him in the major league, because he is a GOD in riffs abd licks, and for me he is a real great guitarplayer)

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

Dead on Doc. They should be Gods. They are underappreciated

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

I found a list edited by ROLLIN STONE with the top 100 of guitarplayers. What I expected wasn't like their list, they ranked the following guitar players:
1) JIMI HENDRIX = IS HE REALLY THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER EVER? I am convinced he is overrated.  He was very special and probably the greatest performer ever. Very skilled, charismatic and dead which leads always to new albums often live or with previously unedited tracks.
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3. B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan                                   
8 Ry Cooder       
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin                                       
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones

Is this a surprising Top 10? BUDDY GUY on 30?, DAVID GILMOUR on 82? EDDY VAN HALEN on 70? It is surprising this list.
I was convinced to find KEITH RICHARDS IN THE TOP 10.
In other lists VAN HALEN is on 5, GILMOUR ON 10
THIS IS SO CONFUSING, and what are the criteria used to be in that list?

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4 Reply by 06sc500 (edited by 06sc500 2008-08-31 16:41:13)

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

Clapton is great, but I question why he's above SRV.  I read through that whole list and didn't see Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Johnson, or Joe Satriani mentioned.  Steve Vai may have made the list, I'm not sure.  Yeah, I do agree that Hendrix is a bit overrated.  So are Pete Townsend and Carlos Santana, both of whom are on that list from Rolling Stone.

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One of my favorite guitar gods is Freddie King from the fifties and sixties. You can really see where Stevie Ray Vaughn got his guitar licks. There are videos of him on u-tube. Last month I got to see number 64 on the top 100 list, Hubert Sumlin, play with the James Cotton Band at the Dutch Mason Blues Fest. Truly amazing talent.
Cotton played Harp with Muddy Waters for some 30 years and is as big as life itself.
Sumlin played with such ease and made it look easy with his timing and spot on solos. Of course I was right up front to see first hand some amazing blues.

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

Well dear fellow chordian, that's a mystery. As you know I do quit a lot of research BEFORE posting a topic (80% = blood, swear and tears to find what I want).
I mentioned this after the "amazing discovery" of some lists about the best guitar players.
If you see the first thread I mention GUITAR GODS like CLAPTON, HENDRIX, SRV, JEFF BECK and JIMMY PAGE and probably I forget a few. I didn't mention SATRIANI, VAI, MALMSTEEN. They are fantastic and great guitar players but my opinion is that these guitarists are VERY, VERY SKILLED because they had probably A MUSIC EDUCATION. Malmsteen is an amazing player but is he really playing straight from the heart or is he showing us HOW GOOD HE IS?
Try to find 5 different lists of the top 100 guitar players and the results will never be the same.
You will find indeed one constant factor: Hendrix, Page, Beck, SRV, Clapton in the top 10. I also mentioned that in one list GILMOUR is on 9 and in another list on 56. "LISTMANIA" is strange.
In the Rolling Stone top 100 you will find Mark Knopfler on 27. If I put a CD in my CD player with JJ CALE you will be convinced that it is Mark Knopfler. I would rather say that KNOPFLER has PERFECTED the JJ CALE style. And so we can start to discuss about who influenced who, which gives us a nice new topic.

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7 Reply by 06sc500 (edited by 06sc500 2008-09-02 11:08:35)

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

gitaardocphil wrote:

Well dear fellow chordian, that's a mystery. As you know I do quit a lot of research BEFORE posting a topic (80% = blood, swear and tears to find what I want).
I mentioned this after the "amazing discovery" of some lists about the best guitar players.
If you see the first thread I mention GUITAR GODS like CLAPTON, HENDRIX, SRV, JEFF BECK and JIMMY PAGE and probably I forget a few. I didn't mention SATRIANI, VAI, MALMSTEEN. They are fantastic and great guitar players but my opinion is that these guitarists are VERY, VERY SKILLED because they had probably A MUSIC EDUCATION. Malmsteen is an amazing player but is he really playing straight from the heart or is he showing us HOW GOOD HE IS?
Try to find 5 different lists of the top 100 guitar players and the results will never be the same.
You will find indeed one constant factor: Hendrix, Page, Beck, SRV, Clapton in the top 10. I also mentioned that in one list GILMOUR is on 9 and in another list on 56. "LISTMANIA" is strange.
In the Rolling Stone top 100 you will find Mark Knopfler on 27. If I put a CD in my CD player with JJ CALE you will be convinced that it is Mark Knopfler. I would rather say that KNOPFLER has PERFECTED the JJ CALE style. And so we can start to discuss about who influenced who, which gives us a nice new topic.

Sorry, I meant the top 100 list, not yours.  I didn't see Malmsteen, Johnson, or Satriani on there.  Also, you're right about the "listmania".  I really don't care who Rolling Stone puts on their top-100 list.  I have my own list, so it doesn't matter smile

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Re: GUITAR ANGELS

gitaardocphil wrote:

I found a list edited by ROLLIN STONE with the top 100 of guitarplayers. What I expected wasn't like their list, they ranked the following guitar players:
1) JIMI HENDRIX = IS HE REALLY THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER EVER? I am convinced he is overrated.  He was very special and probably the greatest performer ever. Very skilled, charismatic and dead which leads always to new albums often live or with previously unedited tracks.
1. Jimi Hendrix
2. Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3. B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan                                   
8 Ry Cooder       
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin                                       
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones

Is this a surprising Top 10? BUDDY GUY on 30?, DAVID GILMOUR on 82? EDDY VAN HALEN on 70? It is surprising this list.
I was convinced to find KEITH RICHARDS IN THE TOP 10.
In other lists VAN HALEN is on 5, GILMOUR ON 10
THIS IS SO CONFUSING, and what are the criteria used to be in that list?

Okay finally somebody said it besides just me. Jimi Hendrix is good... but he aint the number one guitarist of all time. I mean come on!
There's alot of guitar greats, I have to break it down into  groups to even attempt a list.... I mean theres different contexts of greatness. If we're talking about technical skill then you've gotta mention Steve Vai or Jeff Beck or someone like that, but if we're talking about influencing music as a whole doesn't Chuck Berry deserve as much props even though he isnt TECHNICALLY a better instrumentalist than Joe Satriani?? Then there's the pioneers, the first ones to use the electric that others came along and got super stardom with: Charlie Christian and guys like that. And what about Les Paul?? He was a guitar innovator so you have to say he knew it pretty well...
My point is the Rolling Stones took on a task thats almost impossible. Guitar pickers can't be lumped into one list without somebody getting ticked off, because there's different kinds of guitar godliness. Lightning Hopkins is just as cool as Zakk Wylde to me even though you could open a thousand arguments over whose better....its apples and oranges you know?

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