Topic: protect song

what is an easy way to protect song you have written?
copy write?

Re: protect song

Hi coyote1313,

Welcome to the Chordie Forum!

This may be what you are looking for:

http://myfreecopyright.com/

Rule No. 1 - If it sounds good - it is good!

Re: protect song

If you are in the US, copyright is implicit upon authorship.  There isn't anything you need to do except write it down and you have copyright protection.

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Re: protect song

Here's a good source for some valuable information pertaining to copyright laws, etc.. A timeline must be indisputably established for starters. Afterwards, a multitude of various criteria must be met before complete and total ownwership belongs to wishful creator..............

http://www.supnik.com/

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Re: protect song

jerome.oneil wrote:

If you are in the US, copyright is implicit upon authorship.  There isn't anything you need to do except write it down and you have copyright protection.

Jerome, surely there would be more to it than just writing it down?
Would you not have to prove who wrote it down first?
If I heard a song in a pub ( if I was in USA) and I thought this band is going to make it very big, and I wrote down the words......then a year later they have a hit with the song I predicted.
Does this mean I could say " look, i wrote this down years ago" they have stolen this from me"

How would they prove they wrote it first?

Ken

ye get some that are cut out for the job and others just get by from pretending

Re: protect song

upyerkilt wrote:
jerome.oneil wrote:

If you are in the US, copyright is implicit upon authorship.  There isn't anything you need to do except write it down and you have copyright protection.

Jerome, surely there would be more to it than just writing it down?

Nope.  That's it. Just write it down in a "tangible format."  That means record it, or put it on paper, or something like that.  You then own copyright on it.

Registration, and filing papers and other such thing have nothing to do about claiming copyright, but more about establishing the date on which your copyright was established, and allowing for greater damage awards in court should someone violate that right.

One of the reasons I post my songs here is for that reason.  When I find one of my songs on some smash hit album, I can sue and state categorically when I wrote that song, as it was posted on line at a specific date.  I can then produce my notes and songbooks to verify that.

Would you not have to prove who wrote it down first?
If I heard a song in a pub ( if I was in USA) and I thought this band is going to make it very big, and I wrote down the words......then a year later they have a hit with the song I predicted.
Does this mean I could say " look, i wrote this down years ago" they have stolen this from me"

You could do that.  But in all likely hood that band has a recording, or has also written it down, and can produce that in court.

How would they prove they wrote it first?

Ken

By producing their tangible recording.  Then they sue you for violating their right, and if they had filed all those papers, you would be in extra deep shite as a result.

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7 (edited by jerome.oneil 2008-04-28 16:45:23)

Re: protect song

SouthPaw41L wrote:

Here's a good source for some valuable information pertaining to copyright laws, etc.. A timeline must be indisputably established for starters. Afterwards, a multitude of various criteria must be met before complete and total ownwership belongs to wishful creator..............

http://www.supnik.com/

Full copyright protection is afforded authors the instant they commit the work to fixed form.

Direct from the US Copyright Office.

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

Quote:

"Who Can Claim Copyright?

Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work. Only the author or those deriving their rights through the author can rightfully claim copyright."

And more directly...

"How to Secure a Copyright
Copyright Secured Automatically upon Creation

The way in which copyright protection is secured is frequently misunderstood. No publication or registration or other action in the Copyright Office is required to secure copyright. (See following note.) There are, however, certain definite advantages to registration. See “Copyright Registration.â€

Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created, and a work is “created† when it is fixed in a copy or phonorecord for the first time. “Copies† are material objects from which a work can be read or visually perceived either directly or with the aid of a machine or device, such as books, manuscripts, sheet music, film, videotape, or microfilm. “Phonorecords† are material objects embodying fixations of sounds (excluding, by statutory definition, motion picture soundtracks), such as cassette tapes, CDs, or LPs. Thus, for example, a song (the “work†) can be fixed in sheet music (“copies†) or in phonograph disks (“phonorecords†), or both. If a work is prepared over a period of time, the part of the work that is fixed on a particular date constitutes the created work as of that date."

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Re: protect song

I have been trying to sing up for MyFreeCopyright.com but it is not working??
has any one been able to use it??
I have been looking for months on the net for a free or cheep protection
any have any ideas???

Re: protect song

Protection is already free.  All you have to do is write it down.

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