Topic: Stuck- Please Look

Ok  so i've been playing about 3 months now. I can play all the major chords and most minor. I also know a few barre chords. My dad was teaching me but that kind of stopped. But before then he said once i learn barre chords, songs will come rolling in. I don't understand tab all that great, but i can read some of the easier stuff. I would like to learn some older barre chord songs in drop d or something, like Greenday or something easier. What im really looking for is someone to sort of teach me tab, and show me some easier stuff to play with barre chords. I need to get out of this rut considering i can't play more then 30 minutes a day now.

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Drop D won't really suit barre chords for a beginner/improver. The whole liberating aspect of Barre chords is once you learn the F shape and the B shape you can apply it anywhere on the neck. Suddenly sharps and flats are in easy reach. Also once you've learnt a song as a pattern of barre moves you can raise or lower pitch just by shifting everything up or down a fret.

OK now, so you can play full F on all strings, three fingers out in front and your first covering all strings on first fret? Does it ring good and proper? Now move it up two frets. You've just made barre G on the third fret. A is up on fifth and so on. So if the song demands quick moves between G A and F you can keep the one barre shape and zoom back and forth.

If you're wanting to play like Greenday though you'll find full blown barre chords with distortion are a bit over the top. Try doing barres but only playing a few of the strings. Low strings will make for growling and broody. High strings should sizzle and sing. You are now on the way to powerchords.

PS. You may be in the rut because you are restricting repetoire, look to try oldies, ballads, country, folk, whatever will give you new technique and insight.

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Cytania is right on the money!  Playing guitar is a life-long learning thing!  There is no limit to how much you can learn or work on.  Take your time to learn and progress at a good pace.  Rushing to learn as much (or as fast) as you can will only create mediocre results.  To get the best and clearest sound, you must start slow and work your way up--while maintaining (or increase) the sound quality!

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First to Cyntia, the reason i said in distortion is because im not all that great with barre chords so i play in distortion to make what i play sound better. And I know that it is free spirited and at your own pace, but im just so horrible at learning songs on my own. I taught myself chords, barre chords, and learned quick with stuff others showed me like songs. But for some reason i just cant really learn a song on my on. The only reason im really ok at chords is because i make up all my own stuff to practice with. I can read tab decent like i said before, but cant really make songs out of it. Also i love guitar im just getting sick of playing the same few things. I mean i am decent for how long i've been playing, but around people i cant play anything alright to showoff/show them im decent.

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5 (edited by cytania 2007-12-19 10:54:30)

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Make a list of the all-time great songs. Not just the power anthems but little tunes that stick with you, the songs you hum on a long journey. Don't drop stuff from the list because it's silly or dumb. ('Sugar Sugar' by the Archies is just 3 chords but tricky to get right) Now look that list up on Chordie, give them a try.

Second, are you singing along? In many songs the chords and lyrics go together very closely, if you aren't singing you may be missing subtle timing and chord change details. You don't need to sing well. You sometimes see guys in rock bands singing to keep locked in with the song (no mike anywhere near them) or even lead guitarists making noises and singing faces as they solo. (Watchout for some rock songs where the singer and his lyrics go against the band's groove, it can sound great  but then so is a movie where the car goes the wrong way down a freeway narrowly avoiding all the traffic).

Have you got drums? Not the real thing but any kind of backing track or loop? Could be a drum machine, I have a friend that uses the one on a kid's keyboard. Once you have drums you'll notice where your timing sucks  and where you need to tighten your rhythmn up. Rock relys on incredibly sharp timing. You'll also find that you can strum along little mock songs to drums. After that you have to work out what you want to say with a song.

Finally playing around people. The tendency is to want to fly straight into a fast, impressive, fiddly piece. Don't. The magic effect of an audience is to make your fingers turn to rubber and stumble. Always begin with the simplest song you know the best. If you goof up laugh and pretend you did it for fun. Look at who you are playing for and involve them, they won't singalong but ask them to anyway. You may think you've made a fool of yourself with that basic song but they'll secretly think you're brilliant. Most people can't play and are in awe of those who try, even if they don't say so.

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I had the same problem about a month ago.  Played for almost a year, knew chords and strumming patterns, and lots of different riffs from all kinds of songs.  What I found is that I couldn't play very fast when it came to playing fast up and down the fret board (and I play on an acoustic as of right now). I also had no real idea how to fingerpick.  So over the past few weeks I've started learning some acoustic solos (i.e. Eric Clapton Unplugged) and attempting some faster riffs.  What will help you get through is try to listen to some music you normally wouldn't listen to.  Don't listen to stuff you can't stand to hear, but something that you've just really never thought of ever listening to (if you normally listen to hard rock, try some acoustic sutff or some blues or jazz).  The idea is to keep working and trying new things-also, don't be afraid to try a song that looks ridiculously hard.  Take it riff by riff, note by note.  That's how I go about learning solos. Have fun!

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Ok thanks to both of you for taking the time to help me out, and cyntia i dont sing, although i do have a keyboard with drums, and i dont like playing infront of people much, i rarely do it.

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