1 (edited by Grah1 2024-09-28 20:52:58)

Topic: Ai song writing

Well  I'm quite  shocked  at  this  site  I  found , Its  an Ai song  generator  . I've  typed  some  of   my  own lyrics  into  it and  it  has delivered  a  completed  song/poem  to  which  Ive  just  had  to  create  some  music .
I  will  probably   finish  it   but  it  makes  you  feel  a  fake  in some  ways  .
check  it  out  and  give  me  your  thoughts  .
I'll  finish  the  song   and  then decide whether  to  post  it  or  not   any  way   heres  the  link /
https://toolbaz.com/writer/lyric-generator

Re: Ai song writing

Grah thats scary  with people now asking Siri for all the answers and AI writing our songs. Somehow it doesn't feel human to me but I suspect it will become a tool used by many.
I just got it to write this song about chordie. So  here is what AI wrote about chordie.
Verse 1
In a world so wide, where the sun meets the sea,
There’s a place called Chordie, where our hearts are free,
From the mountains of Canada to the shores of Spain,
Songwriters gather, like a sweet refrain.

Chorus
Oh, Chordie is the rhythm, and the magic in the air,
Songwriters from all nations, sharing love and care,
With every strum and every line, we weave our stories true,
Together we create a world, painted in every hue.

Verse 2
Underneath the stars, in the glow of the moon,
They’re crafting melodies, they’re singing their tune,
From the deserts of Dubai to the forests of the north,
It’s a symphony of cultures, each one a priceless worth.

Chorus
Oh, Chordie is the rhythm, and the magic in the air,
Songwriters from all nations, sharing love and care,
With every strum and every line, we weave our stories true,
Together we create a world, painted in every hue.

Bridge
A tapestry of voices, a harmony so bright,
In every song we write, we find a spark of light,
With a guitar in our hands and dreams in our hearts,
We leave our footprints in the music that won’t part.

Chorus
Oh, Chordie is the rhythm, and the magic in the air,
Songwriters from all nations, sharing love and care,
With every strum and every line, we weave our stories true,
Together we create a world, painted in every hue.

Outro
So here’s to the dreamers, the pen and paper crew,
From every corner of the earth, we’ll sing our truths anew,
In this grand mosaic, we find our place and role,
Forever and always, we are chordie, heart and soul.     

Re: Ai song writing

Certainly an interesting site; I think I would feel guilty if I wrote a song entirely by AI - although I probably wouldn't feel so if I picked up a line or two from within there.

But it kinda begs the question whether we are on the track to make the human race dumber, by providing tools that don't make us think beyond a sentence, to create a whole song.

Cheers

Richard     

-[ Musician, writer, guitarist, singer ]-
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4 (edited by neophytte 2024-09-30 01:41:52)

Re: Ai song writing

Looks like it does more than just songs:

Title: AI Creativity: Enhancement or Erosion of Human Imagination?

Abstract:

The advent of artificial intelligence has sparked a widespread debate regarding its impact on human creativity. While some argue that AI is stealing the creativity of humans, others see it as a tool for augmenting and enriching our creative capabilities. This paper aims to explore both viewpoints, providing insights into the intersection of AI and human imagination. By analyzing the current state of AI-generated creativity, the role of humans in this process, and the potential futures of AI in the creative arts, this paper will contribute to the ongoing discussion on the future of human creativity in the digital age.

Introduction:

In recent times, AI has demonstrated its proficiency in many areas traditionally considered to be a domain of human creativity. The ability of AI systems to mimic human creativity in fields such as art, music, and literature has raised concerns that machines may, in fact, be stealing the creativity of humans. The widespread use of AI in content generation, such as news articles, poetry, and video editing, has led some to believe that human creativity is becoming obsolete. However, this paper argues that the relationship between AI and human creativity is more complex than a simplistic narrative of AI stealing our talents would suggest.

AI and Creativity: Machines Mimic Human Creativity

AI systems have achieved remarkable results in emulating human creativity. AI-generated artworks, such as the portrait "Edmond de Belamy," which was sold at a Christie's auction for $432,500, demonstrate the potential of AI to replicate artistic styles and produce visually appealing pieces. In music, AI has been used to compose original songs, with systems like Amper Music and AIVA generating high-quality melodies and harmonies. Additionally, AI-generated literature, including short stories and poetry, has shown that machines can create works that are not easily distinguishable from human-produced content.

These achievements in AI have fueled fears that machines may replace human artists and creators in the future. However, it is essential to consider the underlying processes that enable AI to mimic human creativity. AI systems generate creative content through pattern recognition and machine learning algorithms, which are trained on vast databases of human-created works. While AI may produce novel compositions, they do not possess the human capacity for imagination, insight, and emotional depth that underpins genuine creative thought. Thus, it is important to differentiate between the creative output of AI and the complex cognitive processes that drive human creativity.

Human-AI Collaboration: Enhancing Creativity

Rather than viewing AI as a threat to human creativity, it is more constructive to see it as a tool that can enhance and augment our creative capabilities. The collaboration between humans and AI can lead to innovative and unexpected outcomes, as seen in projects such as Google's DeepDream and the AI-assisted film "Zone Out." These collaborations exemplify the potential benefits of integrating AI into the creative process, allowing humans to explore new possibilities and break free from conventional limitations.

Moreover, AI can free humans from repetitive and time-consuming tasks, such as data analysis and content generation, allowing them to focus on the more complex and imaginative aspects of creative work. This can result in enhanced productivity and increased innovation in various fields.

AI and the Future of Creativity

The future of AI in the creative arts is uncertain but promising. As AI technology advances, it will likely become more sophisticated in its capacity to generate creative content. However, this does not necessarily mean that AI will replace human artists and creators. Instead, it is more plausible that AI will continue to serve as a tool for creative enhancement, facilitating human innovation and imagination.

To ensure that AI enhances, rather than erodes, human creativity, it is essential that humans maintain a critical and thoughtful approach to integrating these technologies into the creative process. This includes setting boundaries for AI usage and promoting a culture of collaboration between humans and machines. By doing so, we can harness the power of AI to augment our creativity while preserving the unique human qualities that underpin our creative thinking.

Conclusion:

While AI has made significant strides in emulating human creativity, it is crucial to recognize that machines lack the emotional complexity and insight that underpin genuine creativity. By fostering collaboration between humans and AI, we can harness the power of AI to enhance our creative capabilities while preserving the unique human qualities that drive innovation and imagination. As AI technology continues to evolve, it is up to us to shape its role in the creative arts, ensuring that it remains a tool for innovation rather than a threat to human creativity.

     

Prompt was: how ai has stolen the creativity of humans


Cheers

Richard

-[ Musician, writer, guitarist, singer ]-
Bandcamp     https://richardmortimer.bandcamp.com/follow_me
Discogs          https://www.discogs.com/release/29065579
YouTube         https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMortimerMusic

Re: Ai song writing

neophytte wrote:

Certainly an interesting site; I think I would feel guilty if I wrote a song entirely by AI - although I probably wouldn't feel so if I picked up a line or two from within there.

But it kinda begs the question whether we are on the track to make the human race dumber, by providing tools that don't make us think beyond a sentence, to create a whole song.

Cheers

Richard

Richard
haven`t seen much evidence of human thought for some time,dumber is already here.     

The King Of Audio Torture

Re: Ai song writing

I may be a snob but this is not for me. Each line of Grahs song is most likely taken from millions of lines from other songs programmed into a computer. Not for me...yuck     

Ask not what Chordie can do for you, but what you can do for Chordie.

Re: Ai song writing

This  is   the   song as   it  currently  stands  , I   inputted  the  chorus   and   used  random  words  and  lines  generated  by  the  AI  . and  I'm quite  surprised    how well  it  came  out . I  then set  it   to  a  chord  progresion of  my  choice .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8rpqAQgio
Please  listen and  then comment  on here     just  like  or  dislike  on you  tube   with  out  mentioning  you  know   how  it  came  about . I  would  like  iit  to  be  an experiment .  I  will  reveal  to  you  tube and  face book  later   that  it  is  AI generated in part .     

Re: Ai song writing

I was quite surprised that the song turned out so well ... (you know, within the limits of one person and a guitar, and a quick demo), and wouldn't have picked up it was (partially) written by AI - maybe I should give it some prompts for the songs I'm having difficulties finishing, just to pick up a few lines and finish them off. I dunno, I'm still divided, it still feels a bit like "cheating" to me, but I guess if I went to a friends place and he suggested a few ideas, it probably wouldn't feel like that ...

So thumbs up/thumbs down ... still undecided!!

Cheers

Richard     

-[ Musician, writer, guitarist, singer ]-
Bandcamp     https://richardmortimer.bandcamp.com/follow_me
Discogs          https://www.discogs.com/release/29065579
YouTube         https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMortimerMusic

Re: Ai song writing

I've posted it over on Facebook and so far reaction has been positive no one realises.I'll let it run over the week end and then repost a video explaining but one puzzle is who has the rights to the song ,me or the web site or both     

Re: Ai song writing

Grah1 wrote:

but one puzzle is who has the rights to the song ,me or the web site or both

There is an interesting article about that here: https://theconversation.com/ai-can-make … ted-229714

Apparently the answer is "complicated" ....

Cheers

Richard     

-[ Musician, writer, guitarist, singer ]-
Bandcamp     https://richardmortimer.bandcamp.com/follow_me
Discogs          https://www.discogs.com/release/29065579
YouTube         https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMortimerMusic

Re: Ai song writing

I think this A1 is going to be a can of worms for many.     

Re: Ai song writing

Further  to  this  discussion   check this  vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYAtL0D50A     

Re: Ai song writing

Grah1 wrote:

Further  to  this  discussion   check this  vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYAtL0D50A

His bottom line, or key takeaway was: "you can't trust anyone anymore" ... which is sadly what the internet has given us ...

Cheers

Richard     

-[ Musician, writer, guitarist, singer ]-
Bandcamp     https://richardmortimer.bandcamp.com/follow_me
Discogs          https://www.discogs.com/release/29065579
YouTube         https://www.youtube.com/@RichardMortimerMusic

Re: Ai song writing

Grah1 wrote:

This  is   the   song as   it  currently  stands  , I   inputted  the  chorus   and   used  random  words  and  lines  generated  by  the  AI  . and  I'm quite  surprised    how well  it  came  out . I  then set  it   to  a  chord  progresion of  my  choice .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz8rpqAQgio
Please  listen and  then comment  on here     just  like  or  dislike  on you  tube   with  out  mentioning  you  know   how  it  came  about . I  would  like  iit  to  be  an experiment .  I  will  reveal  to  you  tube and  face book  later   that  it  is  AI generated in part .

Well, if you hadn't told us, I would never have guessed it was a collaboration between you and AI.  The song was good, so it leaves the question then, how many artists are actually out there now using AI to write their songs and poems.   It's probably even possible to get AI to put the chords in for you if one so desired by the way things are going with AI.     

Laugh Lots ... Forgive Much ...  Love one another     smile
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Re: Ai song writing

Grah1 wrote:

Further  to  this  discussion   check this  vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYAtL0D50A

Yeah, interesting dilemma.  I am not sure about the whole AI thing at all personally but there seems to be pro`s and con`s.  I think people will lose the satisfaction of it being 100% their own creation but on the other hand, those people who want to create and can`t, it will be their dream come true.  AI is being used in so many different ways now, not just music.  I guess time will tell but I hope people retain their own creativity and not totally rely on AI.     

Laugh Lots ... Forgive Much ...  Love one another     smile
Covers and some Originals found over there    ------- >    https://soundcloud.com/ukulelejan