Topic: Reading Music
The more I delve into music theory, moveable chords, jazz chords, the circle of fifths, augment & dimish chords, etc., the more my understanding starts to resemble this great chart:
2 2016-11-14 16:43:13 (edited by Baldguitardude 2016-11-14 16:44:07)
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It never gets any easier, either. I learned the hard way that unless you're looking to play jazz and improvise a lot, you won't use 95% of that stuff. If your focus is on western popular music, focus on dorian, mixolydian, aeolian, major and minor pent, and major and minor dominant chords and altered chords. If you want to play metal maybe throw in harmonic and melodic minor.
Just my .02
Edit: If you're looking to play classical music a lot of the above goes out the window.
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I'm right there with ya TF. 
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Tenement Funster wrote:
I'm right there with ya TF.
Ditto
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Before reading your post, I thought I was looking at the result of an angry Ludwig Van Beethoven (known to me as "The Maestro") who just couldn't get that "movement" down.
Although I can read percussion, no way can I do anything with notes all over the staff, so I'm with you as wel, TF.
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6 2017-02-06 00:19:14 (edited by Classical Guitar 2017-02-06 00:21:41)
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I am the odd one on Chordie in that i play by mostly reading music. The hardest part of teaching new students is teaching them how to read music and read and learn the timing of songs. After that they learn to play chords and tabs.
I do understand and like your music sheet. Would like to be able to print a sheet like that.
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I am the odd one on Chordie in that i play by mostly reading music. The hardest part of teaching new students is teaching them how to read music and read and learn the timing of songs. After that they learn to play chords and tabs.
I do understand and like your music sheet. Would like to be able to print a sheet like that.
I most certainly envy how you approach & teach music CG. It is clearly the right way to go.
I picked up Dad's little concert-sized "Suprema" when I was 8-years-old, and never got a lesson. It was months before I even knew what being "in tune" meant. After that, it was just a matter of listening to a song on the radio, and trying to figure out where to fret the strings to reproduce the music. Slow, painful, mistake-ridden, and compromised ... I never even met another guitar player until my mid-teens. And we were all doing the same thing, i.e., being parrots. Those birds can repeat the words, but they don't know what they mean.
It's only been in the last 5 years that I became aware of the various scales and modes, and have started trying to learn them from books and YouTube videos. Sure, I can rattle off a lot of songs now, play some decent lead, and even know what notes go with which chords (for the most part). But I have so many bad habits and such broken understanding. At 60-years old, I've had to accept these limitations, but none of this limits my enjoyment of music or playing at all ... I still love it!
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If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
If you understand how chords map to the major scale, you already understand exactly the same thing for a given modal scale.
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If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
If you understand how chords map to the major scale, you already understand exactly the same thing for a given modal scale.
Ditto
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dino48 wrote:
jerome.oneil wrote:If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
If you understand how chords map to the major scale, you already understand exactly the same thing for a given modal scale.
Ditto
Thanks for the encouragement, guys!
I just stumbled upon most of these things over the years, because they sounded right. Since joining Chordie 4 years ago, and going through the www.justinguitar.com website, a lot of things have started making more sense. I am, however, very conscious of not letting music become a chore.
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If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
While this is technically true, knowing how to play them and knowing how to use them are very different things, agree? I can play locrian up and down the fretboard. Using it in a musical way? No idea.
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jerome.oneil wrote:If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
While this is technically true, knowing how to play them and knowing how to use them are very different things, agree? I can play locrian up and down the fretboard. Using it in a musical way? No idea.
That is true of all things, though. No point having the most awesome set of tools in the universe if you're the worst carpenter in the world.
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You talking to my wife? I've been called an awesome tool before.
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You talking to my wife? I've been called an awesome tool before.
Are we married to the same woman?
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lol
AS I sit here looking at my guitars after reading this - I'm pretty sue I should be limited to one entry level six string, and my wife would chirp in - "and absolutely no microphones for singing!"
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jerome.oneil wrote:
Baldguitardude wrote:jerome.oneil wrote:If you can play a major scale, you already know all seven modal scales as well.
While this is technically true, knowing how to play them and knowing how to use them are very different things, agree? I can play locrian up and down the fretboard. Using it in a musical way? No idea.
That is true of all things, though. No point having the most awesome set of tools in the universe if you're the worst carpenter in the world.
Well heck by that logic Jerome, I shouldnt have but one guitar either, but lets not forget the FUN of it to.
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jerome.oneil wrote:Baldguitardude wrote:While this is technically true, knowing how to play them and knowing how to use them are very different things, agree? I can play locrian up and down the fretboard. Using it in a musical way? No idea.
That is true of all things, though. No point having the most awesome set of tools in the universe if you're the worst carpenter in the world.
Well heck by that logic Jerome, I shouldnt have but one guitar either, but lets not forget the FUN of it to.
I'd be curious for you to walk me through the chain of logic that lead you to that conclusion.
Because if tools:carpenters as guitars:musicians leads you to that conclusion, then either you've got a serious logic problem or you're a carpenter that only owns a hammer.
Edit: After further reading, that came off as kind of snarky and I don't mean it that way.
You're a musician. You make music (don't deny it, I've heard you!) and are entitled to all the hammers you want.
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