1 (edited by Strummerboy Bill 2016-05-07 01:37:07)

Topic: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

An old steamer trunk I bought at an antiques show about 15 years ago. It's where I keep all my "starts and stops", my "failures" and stuff like napkins, etc. with only one line written on them.

I know there must be many of my friends here who do the same thing, but lately I have dragged that trunk into the music room, opened it and reread some of that older stuff and  had an epiphany: I feel differently about those "unfinished" works than I did before, and it's because of folks like you that I've become inspired to take another/new look.

So now I'm working on three songs with the goal of completing them from start to finish.

Moral: Don't throw that stuff away! It's entirely possible you'll have had experiences that will shed a new and/or different light on it. You might have changed and that "cry in your beer" country song could be edited into a sarcastic/angry tune for whatever reason.

Finally I wanted to include a little anecdote about a song 'idea" I've been kicking around about a guy who's wife doesn't think too much of his poker-playing buddies, so as luck would have it, one weekend his wife decides she wants to visit her Mom and Dad and he thinks to himself "Here's my chance".

He calls his friends up one by one and lets them know that he'll have the entire house to himself because his wife, RUTH is out of town. To be cute he lets his friends know that he's, uh ---- "Ruthless". It became the title of my song, of course.

So I start writing on this thing, and it's falling right in place, the words are razor sharp and smooth at the same time and I was having fun when all of a sudden it hit me: "That song title is just too 'cute' for no one to have ever done it before. Bill".

Although my brain was screaming at me not to, I nevertheless googled "Ruthless" and guess what?

Yup. smile  Thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3pQK8oo-u4

So back into the trunk that one goes for a while. smile

Y'all have a great weekend!

Your Friend

Bill

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Why should it go back into the trunk?  Song titles aren't copyrighted.

DE

I want to read my own water, choose my own path, write my own songs

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill, now listen to me good buddy. I had a listen to your link and the "plot" of your song and theirs is totally different, so don't sweat it. Get that song out of the trunk and finish it because I'm looking forward to reading it and hearing it. If it bothers you just add "I'm Ruthless" simples!

Ask not what Chordie can do for you, but what you can do for Chordie.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill, now listen to me good buddy. I had a listen to your link and the "plot" of your song and theirs is totally different, so don't sweat it. Get that song out of the trunk and finish it because I'm looking forward to reading it and hearing it. If it bothers you just add "I'm Ruthless" simples!

Ask not what Chordie can do for you, but what you can do for Chordie.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill, now listen to me good buddy. I had a listen to your link and the "plot" of your song and theirs is totally different, so don't sweat it. Get that song out of the trunk and finish it because I'm looking forward to reading it and hearing it. If it bothers you just add "I'm Ruthless" simples!
Going back to the original subject, I have what I call my slush pile. It's a box with all my abortions in. If I'm in the full flow of writing and feel the need for a change of direction, middle 8, chorus or bridge and I'm stuck then that's where I go to give me ideas, so many of my songs may be new with a 30 year old section.

Ask not what Chordie can do for you, but what you can do for Chordie.

6 (edited by TIGLJK 2016-05-07 10:32:14)

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

I would call it     
Ruthless, all alone ( get my friends on the phone!) 
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r566/JK072652/Bills%20Storage%20Trunk_zps9uotlzx4.jpg

Go for it Bill !!!
Jim

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Make your life count, and the world will be a better place because you tried.

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

HECK... name it Ruth-less --- people read "ruthless" but it puts the pun right there where it belongs and brings to question being without Ruth.  Makes people TAKE the second look.  do it.  do it now.  go.

Art and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder.
What constitutes excellent music is in the ears of the listener.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

in a meek voice: Okay..... I will. smile

I even restructured it during the night in a dream.  I'll work on it today.

Thanks as always for the support, and Dirty Ed ? Yeah. I really get spooked when one of my song titles is the same as one already done. Thanks for the reminder. smile

Bill

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9 (edited by Strummerboy Bill 2016-05-08 15:54:14)

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Okay here's what I came up with during the last hour. (REALLY!) I think if y'all would just give me an "assignment" to write a song about..... whatever, I could do a better job of it.

Here is "Ruth-Less" with thanks and love to all of my friends for their support. Think of this as one of those "Country-Talking- Blues" songs, such as this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16fG1sDagU

As always, feel free to add, subtract and change for the better.


Ruthless
===============
G                            C                        G
Well, I know a man who liked to have fun
G                             C                       D
It wasn't like him to run from a gun
G                             C                        G
Except when the gun was the voice of his wife named Ruth.

That woman was pretty as she was mean

And all she had to do was LOOK at Gene
                                                                                                                         
And he'd commence  to beggin' and tellin' the truth   
                             

Chorus:
G                                         D
But now he's "Ruth-Less", Ruthless
                G                         D
And yeah, just a little bit toothless

But ol' Gene he WON that night (fight)

And sent  Ruthie to her folks for spite

He called his buddies up after she left

Told 'em friends, I gotta confess,

I'm ruthless.



It was late night poker Ruth couldn't  stand

And yellin at Gene to beat the band

Just never seemed to do her any good.

She tried making him sleep on the couch

But that just turned 'em both into a grouch

And you could hear 'em screamin' across the neighborhood.


But then one night it all came to a head

When Gene came beggin' to be allowed in the bed

But beg as he might it didn't help

He was so drunk he'd fart and belch

And threw up on poor Ruthie's negligee

OY VEH!!!


Well, the last straw hit the camel's back

Ruth and Gene went for the attack

And what happened then is best left to your imagination

But I will say this, if you could have seen that mess

You'd agree there were no grounds for negotiations.


And that's  the story of Gene and Ruth

Some of it's lies, some of it truth

Did they make up? Well, I hope they did

Nothin' worse than a marriage on the skids


Not takin' sides, you understand.

Just wish that game had been better planned

With some give and take on either side

Let some of it hit, let some of it ride.

CHORUS:


But now he's "Ruth-Less", Ruthless

And yeah, just a little bit toothless

But ol' Gene he WON that night (fight)

And sent  Ruthie to her folks for spite

He called his buddies up after she left
Told 'em friends, I gotta confess,

I'm ruthless.

EXTRA CHORUS:

And now she's Gene-Less, Gene-less

Beauty with a touch of mean-ness.

Their home it stinks of beer and smoke

And every now and then a "toke"

But I believe they both would say

Being "Ruthless" and "Geneless"

Is the only way.

#####

smile

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Whooo hooo!  BUT - what are the CHORDS?  It's not a song unless it's got chords.  Hurry!  (or we'll move you to the poems section).  For the sake of saying it's a song, and a talker at that, I'll just go with standard chords... GCGD - like that in "A Boy Named Sue"  wink

Mission:  Provide chords for Ruth-Less
Go!

Art and beauty are in the eyes of the beholder.
What constitutes excellent music is in the ears of the listener.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Corrected for chords above. I hope they're correct because I'm not as accomplished at writing the music as y'all are. I pretty much have to have the tabs/chords in front of me to play anything. Sorry! smile

Bill

PS: If anyone can improve on what I have listed as the chords, can you help me out and I'll try to find an online tutor to help me til then.

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill
You`re on fire,keep them coming.

The King Of Audio Torture

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Great song Bill you got the magic.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Hey Bill, Is there a bridge or other changes after the second verse?   Not hearing the song, just reading the lyrics/chords I see changes in the rhyme scheme and rhythm structure in various places.  The chorus rhyme structure is a consistent 7-line AABBCCA for the two chorus sections and ending with a six-line  AABBCC structure for the"extra" chorus (nice touch).  However the verse structure changes throughout the song.  The first two verses are a consistent AABCCB six-line structure but things begin to change  - the next verse is a 6-line rhyme scheme AABBCC followed by a 5 line AABCB and then two 4-line AABB sections. Is there also a different chord progression involved with these variances?

As a songwriter, I'm always interested in the thought process used by other writers.  Is there a specific reason you varied the rhyme structures and verse lengths?

DE

I want to read my own water, choose my own path, write my own songs

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

I may have let myself get into big of a hurry, Ed.

It seems like every time I write a "story" song, I "paint myself into a corner" and say to myself "you have to resolve this new conflict, Bill!!!"" It is for that reason, I tend to lose the "rhythm and rhyme" of the whole thing.

The only bridge I put in there is the chorus after the first verse and the double chorus ("Gene-Less") after the last verse.

Yeah, I could use some help. smile

Thanks, my friend

Bill

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Also, it's not really all that funny, is it? I mean, when you think about it and read the words: A marriage broken up because of a card game???  Because no common ground could be found?

Sometimes I wonder why my mood changes within something I have written? I mean, it started off funny enough, and then such a sad ending.....

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Sometimes I wonder why my mood changes within something I have written? I mean, it started off funny enough, and then such a sad ending.....

funny at the beginning and humourous at the end. i heard someone on the radio today say that a good writer can make you laugh, cry and dance, this song you've created certainly fills that criteria ('cept maybe for the dance bit) but i love it wierd verse structures and all. so glad you got the encouragement to finish it, so well done chordians for the extra push.

Ask not what Chordie can do for you, but what you can do for Chordie.

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill ... whether intended or not, I did find your ballad very funny, and cleverly written, I might add. Most humor is rooted in someone's misfortune, so you're on safe ground by virtue of over-whelming precedent!

19 (edited by Strummerboy Bill 2016-05-08 15:51:44)

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Thanks you two. I don't know how the rest of you writers feel, but once I get started on a song/poem/short story --- whatever ---- the people in them become like my kids or my friends and I react to them and with them the same way I would in real life.

It's got something to do with my emotionality (is that a word?), but by the time I finished this one, damned if I didn't feel like I wanted to cry because these two couldn't work it out.

“The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.” ----- Omar Khayyám

I always liked this quote and I especially like Peatle's and keepitreal's abilities to write prose such as we see by them from time to time. With just a few lines, they both manage to convey their messages to us just by using the minimalist approach. Maybe this literary device could prevent me from that "painting myself into a corner" thing.

smile

Love You Guys!

Bill

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill, your song got me going back through my old "hook book" to resurrect a song idea I had several years ago which is similar but different.  One of the employees where I worked mentioned that a certain supervisor was ruthless.  Being a "word guy" I wondered if someone can be ruthless can they also be "ruth"?  I looked it up and sure enough its a word that means you have empathy for another or feel remorse for something you've done.  So thanks to you awakening an old spark I wrote a new song last night.  Think of the rhythm/chord progression  used in "Mississippi Squirrel Revival".......  It's an  AABCCB rhyme scheme like yours but without a chorus.

DE


                       Ruth

             G
I was feeling kinda literary
         E
So I perused the dictionary
       A                                      D                                    G
To find new words that would impress my friends
        G
But little did I know as I looked around
E
That the word that I finally found
              A                                  D                       G
Would bring my ten-year marriage to an end

Em
That word was "ruth" (with a little r)
G
A word I could use at the local bar
     A                                                                               D                 D7
A word they'd think an educated man had borrowed
    G
A short word that just rolls off the tongue
            E
That would impress bar patrons old and young
         A                                      D                         G
And replace  "remorse", "pity","grief" or "sorrow"


A week went by and to my consternation
I couldn't slip that word into a conversation
I was growing testy and acting like a jerk
My wife asked what was wrong with me
I yelled "shut up and let me be"
Then slammed the door and hurried off to work

At the office I fretted and I stewed
And felt sorry about our little feud
And my angry reply that my wife had heard.
But I felt better as the day wore on
Because I knew when I got home
I'd have my chance to use my new-found word

......guitar riff........

I hurried home but was still a little late
Rushed up the walk and slammed the gate
And burst into the house without a warning
Grabbed my wife and said "Babe, I gotta say
That I've been feeling ruth all day
..............pause.............
          G             D                             G
She filed for divorce the next morning

I want to read my own water, choose my own path, write my own songs

Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Bill, your on a run here with your song writing................excellent..........love what your doing, keep it coming.................looking forward to hearing this one as well smile

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

TIGLJK wrote:

I would call it     
Ruthless, all alone ( get my friends on the phone!) 
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r566/JK072652/Bills%20Storage%20Trunk_zps9uotlzx4.jpg

Go for it Bill !!!
Jim

Cute, Jim. Reeeeaaal cute, buddy! smile smile smile

Your Pal

Bill

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Re: "From The Vault"? More Like "From The Trunk"!

Dirty Ed wrote:

Bill, your song got me going back through my old "hook book" to resurrect a song idea I had several years ago which is similar but different.  One of the employees where I worked mentioned that a certain supervisor was ruthless.  Being a "word guy" I wondered if someone can be ruthless can they also be "ruth"?  I looked it up and sure enough its a word that means you have empathy for another or feel remorse for something you've done.  So thanks to you awakening an old spark I wrote a new song last night.  Think of the rhythm/chord progression  used in "Mississippi Squirrel Revival".......  It's an  AABCCB rhyme scheme like yours but without a chorus.

DE


                       Ruth

             G
I was feeling kinda literary
         E
So I perused the dictionary
       A                                      D                                    G
To find new words that would impress my friends
        G
But little did I know as I looked around
E
That the word that I finally found
              A                                  D                       G
Would bring my ten-year marriage to an end

Em
That word was "ruth" (with a little r)
G
A word I could use at the local bar
     A                                                                               D                 D7
A word they'd think an educated man had borrowed
    G
A short word that just rolls off the tongue
            E
That would impress bar patrons old and young
         A                                      D                         G
And replace  "remorse", "pity","grief" or "sorrow"


A week went by and to my consternation
I couldn't slip that word into a conversation
I was growing testy and acting like a jerk
My wife asked what was wrong with me
I yelled "shut up and let me be"
Then slammed the door and hurried off to work

At the office I fretted and I stewed
And felt sorry about our little feud
And my angry reply that my wife had heard.
But I felt better as the day wore on
Because I knew when I got home
I'd have my chance to use my new-found word

......guitar riff........

I hurried home but was still a little late
Rushed up the walk and slammed the gate
And burst into the house without a warning
Grabbed my wife and said "Babe, I gotta say
That I've been feeling ruth all day
..............pause.............
          G             D                             G
She filed for divorce the next morning

I wish I could keep my rhymes and meter together like that, DE. I get in too big a hurry, maybe? smile

Great tune!

Bill

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