• From: Sioux City, IA
  • Registered: 2010-11-22
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Topic: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

Here's a nooby question for you more experienced players:

I'm starting to learn picking patterns and I have a question about the use of the thumb. I was watching a video by Fred Sokolow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_bkPWq6 … re=related) about picking "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right," and the pattern he teaches is 5/2/3/1, in which the thumb alternates between the 5th and 3rd string, and the index and middle finger pick the 2nd and 1st string. However, I was under the impression that strings 1 - 3 (open E, B, G) should be picked by the ring, middle, and index fingers, respectively.

Is there a reason to use the thumb to pick the third string, or is this just a matter of personal style and/or preference? Do you get a different kind of sound if you are picking down with the thumb rather than up with the index finger?

I'd appreciate any additional advice you'd like to share about picking "Don't Think Twice."

Thanks!

  • From: Probably Somewhere
  • Registered: 2010-12-09
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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

He is using the G string for the bass line and the thumb is plucking all the bass notes. That's the reason. wink

  • From: Sioux City, IA
  • Registered: 2010-11-22
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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

Here I am displaying my ignorance, but . . .  so is the 3rd string considered one of the bass notes? Is that all the time, or just in this song?  I thought the lower three strings (6, 5, 4) took care of that?

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

Hey,
I think what you have to realize is that picking is not a science, the idea of using the thumb to play the 4-6th string is the typical ,"classical" method. However, the rule (of thumb if you will) is whatever works, gives a good sound and is comfortable. I play with a lot of muscians and you see a great deal of different picking patterns. By the way, I took lessons with Fred, I'm a big fan, if he says it then it's right.
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  • From: Sioux City, IA
  • Registered: 2010-11-22
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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

That works for me, mrmayor; I like flexibility of approach. I'm a fan of Fred's teaching, too. His soft-spoken, easy to follow instruction is great.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

As I have said many times here, the way you do may be right or wrong according to hoyle, but the important thing is what's comfortable and easy for you. Just because you might do it differently doesn't make it wrong.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

No 1 Rule - If it sounds good, it is good!

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

Welcome to Chordie Mrmayor!!!!!

Pete and topdown nailed it. It may be easier for you to learn the way he's showing you in the vid because it's exact. It will be more difficult to watch him and change your fingering, if your're a beginner anway. I'll third it, do what works for you.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

All good advice.  But generally, thumb owns strings 4 5 6 and strings 1 2 3 belong to the other fingers for reasons said.  Bass notes with the thumb, etc.  T 1 T 2 or T 1 2 T 1 3 would be pick patterns that go well with this arrangement where T is your thumb.  If you watch even the most accomplished musicians you'll see there are many ways to make beautiful music in your own style.

This guy shows it pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boJu1uz2RIE

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

Bgd says it all pretty simple,if you watch him a few times that is what he is doing most of the time.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

In the book I learned from (The Art of Contemporary Travis Picking by Mark Hanson), the thumb "owns" strings 4,5 &6... EXCEPT on chords with a 4th string root, like D and F, in which case, everything moves up one string.  On a D chord, the thumb will alternate on 3 &4 (or 5) and the index and middle will have strings 2 and 1 respectively.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

I'd be hard pressed to disagree with Fred Sokolow on how to approach a song. 

Plus what dguyton said.  I move my thumb up for D chords.  I avoid F's.

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Re: Thumb and Picking Pattern?

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