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For the first time in my 64 years on this earth I have been stoned!! Never in my life have I smoked a 'joint' (I think that is the correct term) and I most definitely will not start.

On Thursday evening I called at my neighbour's house when I saw that a mutual friend was there and sat with them in the lounge with a glass of water. They were both smoking 'wacky baccy' and although I noticed that the smell was stronger than usual I ignored it. After about 15 minutes I started to feel a little peculiar, five minutes later I was feeling decidedly odd, dizzy, disorientated, shaky and nauseous. I made a rapid exit, walked home, crashed out for two hours and did not feel my usual self for 24 hours.

Even imbibed second hand it is not to be recommended.

Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

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Agreed.  I don't care if folks want to smoke it, but I'd rather that it not be around me. 

- Zurf

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I cant tolerate smoke of any kind because of the damage I inflicted on myself with smoking ciggaretts but I stll enjoy a brownie or two lol

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I did smoke it a few times in high school,but I liked beer better so I stuck to it. a couple of years later two of my best friends died from drugs so I have a real grudge against them.

my papy said son your going too drive me too drinking if you dont stop driving that   Hot  Rod  Lincoln!! Cmdr cody and his lost planet airman

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Have daily for the past 16 years or so...    Active/proud supporter of NORML

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I'm with Russ on this one. : J     A natural grown plant is 1,000,000 times less dangerous than  the violence stimulated from right/left-winged political propoganda, cigarettes, cigars, alcohol, and pea brained-closed minds. Like it or not folks, it's only a matter of time before the ol' hippee lettuce is gonna be just as common as 'tater chips and soda pop. And by the way, I plea the fifth...........

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Not wanting to cause an argument or upset anyone but this is something I have heard before and I cannot logically make sense of.

Tobacco is a natural grown plant and we all know that smoking it produces nicotine, tars and countless other toxic chemicals and the long term effects on our health from it's use. However we take the same cigarette and add a few bits of a different plant (or toasted bits off a brown block) then suddenly all the harmful effect are eliminated and it is supposed to be good for you!! I cannot get my head around that reasoning in any way, shape or form.

By the way I have been a cigarette smoker for good part of my life and whilst writing this I do have a desire to partake, but I will resist as I have for the past year.


Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

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Under the right circumstances, I believe that it is not any worse for a person than having a few drinks of alcohol.  I watched this one British show where they went to Amsterdam and experimented with all the different varieties in a "coffee house"... much like having different flavored coffees although more like trying different drinks.  They also did some testing on the effects of driving a vehicle after use, and they showed the comparison to driving a vehicle after alcohol use.  In this particular testing, the alcohol induced driving was FAR more dangerous than marijuana.  It was QUITE interesting.  Frankly, I'd not want to be on the roads with anyone under the influence of anything (including many legal prescription drugs as they can throw you for a loop!).  BUT, just like Alcohol, I believe people need to be careful.  Sadly, as it's not regulated you never do know what you're getting (unless you know the person that grew it).  I wouldn't want to get a second hand high, so I feel for you Roger.  If you aren't choosing it on your own, it's just as bad as someone slipping something into your drink.  As for my personal use, I'll Plead the Fifth with Toney!  smile  Russell, I love brownies but I think that's just my chocolate addiction and that's another story!  ha ha!

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We allow alot of "medical weed in california" for pain and your doctor can prescribe it for you,They are trying too legilize it here also,so they can collect taxes on it. Amy I am really with you on the no driving under the influnce.when we go out we get a cabor one of us drives sober.I amthe sober one most of the time and it is a very entertaining too be sober in a club.

my papy said son your going too drive me too drinking if you dont stop driving that   Hot  Rod  Lincoln!! Cmdr cody and his lost planet airman

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i dont smoke, never have and believe that smoking ordinary or the suped-up stuff, is antisocial and dangerous! to the smoker and/or the inocent bystander.

my oldest son began smoking "weed" on a regular basis, and went totally off the rails. even now 10 years later, he cant maintain a relationship, he suspects his partners of playing around, he just loses his rag at the slightest thing and is very agressive yet so insecure unless he has a drink. now i believe he has a drink problem which has led to liver problems.

he has also experimented with other stuff, stopping short of heroin! he is clean now but the effects have remained.

my advice....stay well away.

the strongest drug i have tried is paracetamol, two at a time every 4 hours (as recomended) and then only till the headache passes.  i'm a good boy

phill

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You just gave me the "munchies!!""

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Roger Guppy wrote:

Not wanting to cause an argument or upset anyone but this is something I have heard before and I cannot logically make sense of.

Tobacco is a natural grown plant and we all know that smoking it produces nicotine, tars and countless other toxic chemicals and the long term effects on our health from it's use. However we take the same cigarette and add a few bits of a different plant (or toasted bits off a brown block) then suddenly all the harmful effect are eliminated and it is supposed to be good for you!! I cannot get my head around that reasoning in any way, shape or form.

By the way I have been a cigarette smoker for good part of my life and whilst writing this I do have a desire to partake, but I will resist as I have for the past year.


Roger

Tobacco has 420 different chemicals, cannibis only 103,   I'm with pix..  some say it cures,,,,,   

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Well, i guess I'm gonna start a ...... storm but this is something I don't think we should be discussing on this forum. We don't talk about politic's, religion, sex, use foul lanauage or other topic's that could posibly disturb others so why drugs. We have a lot of young people here on this forum and they don't need to see any of us giving MJ a vote of approval. I'm almost 60 years old and have done a lotta things in my life that I'm proud of and a whole lotta stuff I'm not proud of. I'm not a prud nor do I pass judgement on others - it's just a matter of our putting thoughts in young minds.

Nela

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This is a relevant issue these days. Almost everyone has an opinion one way or another. The drug war is a mess. People are suffering whether they deserve it or not.
I smoked cigarettes for 45 years, pot for 40. I quit tobacco when I found I had heart disease. I quit pot when the weight gain became a problem.
Sobriety is a fun trip all it's own. I finally am free of any need to smoke anything and what a relief it is. Both habits took their toll on my health.
The current generation doesn't need to smoke anything either but they must chose and live with the consequences. I am inclined to discourage drug use including alcohol but in a free country all can decide for themselves.
God willing we can stay free.

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I can't believe people still smoke and take drugs when they know what damage it's going to do to them. The effects are just... terrifying.
Alcohol is different I suppose, if you can drink responsibly.

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badeye wrote:

Tobacco has 420 different chemicals, cannibis only 103,   I'm with pix..  some say it cures,,,,,

My point exactly  Smoke a cigarette and you imbibe 420 chemicals, smoke a joint and imbibe 523.

Neither is good for you.

Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

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Roger Guppy wrote:
badeye wrote:

Tobacco has 420 different chemicals, cannibis only 103,   I'm with pix..  some say it cures,,,,,

My point exactly  Smoke a cigarette and you imbibe 420 chemicals, smoke a joint and imbibe 523.

Neither is good for you.

Roger

Most people don't mix it for J's... It's straight cannabis. I think that's a over the seas thing.... 

I'd never say that either is good for you but cannabis is no where near as bad as people think and it's educators claiming it's as bad as cocaine and other drugs that make it become a gateway drug. That along with the people (pushers) you are forced to deal with to get it because it is illegal, unless you grow your own that is. They claim it's so bad, you'll go crazy, steal and rob for it , then people try it and realize it's really nothing and figure the harder stuff is just hyped up as well so they try it and get in real trouble... If people where more educated on it we'd have a less sever hard drug problem...

Contrary to popular belief it's not addictive. It doesn't have to be smoked, it can be digested or the safest way is to vaporize...

Alcohol is 10x more dangerous and addictive than cannabis could ever be. You don't get violent or stupid on weed. The only thing a pot smoker is going to hurt is the pantry or fridge smile

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Yeah.  I've just seen smart people become very stupid very fast when smoking it.  Maybe in the minds of those smoking, their behavior is affected, but if you stay straight around people who are smoking you'll see a different story.  That's my personal observation anyway. 

As I said, I don't care if people want to smoke it. I've got my own bad habits and so I'd be a hypocrite to pass judgement.  But I do prefer not to be around people when they choose to partake.  That's fair, I think.

- Zurf

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
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this argument will go on regardless of any concensus we may make here. i believe there is a new derivative called "skunk" which is addictive and causes agressive behavior.

we as musicians are all bundled into the same barrel...to the non artistic we are all drug users. i for one am not! they say the beatles were at their most inventive when "high" which makes me sad. i wonder how they managed after their flirtation with contraband ended?

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Zurf wrote:

Yeah.  I've just seen smart people become very stupid very fast when smoking it.  Maybe in the minds of those smoking, their behavior is affected, but if you stay straight around people who are smoking you'll see a different story.  That's my personal observation anyway. 

As I said, I don't care if people want to smoke it. I've got my own bad habits and so I'd be a hypocrite to pass judgement.  But I do prefer not to be around people when they choose to partake.  That's fair, I think.

- Zurf

Yea Zurf, If they're not real pot smokers it'll affect them more the first few times they do it... Just like cigarettes, the first few packs you smoke have you so light headed you can hardly stand up, but once you smoke a few, it doesn't affect you that way anymore. Same way with pot, the first few times ya get high you get giddy and stupid acting if smoking the wrong kind (sativa). After those first few times though it's just a calming/relaxing affect.
Cannabis is broke down into 2 basic categories/species sativa and indica, Sativa is more of a giddy high (pick me up) and indica is more of a stoned high (relaxant)... There's a big difference between observing real pot smokers and just recreational users. And yep your outlook on it is very fair smile

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not telling anyone to go out and do it, I just think it's better if people really understand it... smile

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Phill Williams wrote:

this argument will go on regardless of any concensus we may make here. i believe there is a new derivative called "skunk" which is addictive and causes agressive behavior.

we as musicians are all bundled into the same barrel...to the non artistic we are all drug users. i for one am not! they say the beatles were at their most inventive when "high" which makes me sad. i wonder how they managed after their flirtation with contraband ended?

I'm sure it's different in other areas but around here "skunk" is weed of low quality that has been laced, usually with embalming fluid, to make it more affective but it's not a smart idea and can be very dangerous. That stuff, I'd recommend anyone staying away from. It's closer to pcp than pot...

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Russell_Harding wrote:

I cant tolerate smoke of any kind because of the damage I inflicted on myself with smoking ciggaretts but I stll enjoy a brownie or two lol

That's how its done.   smile

I've smoked enough pot to crush you if it fell on you.  Frankly, I just don't have the time.

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Roger Guppy wrote:

Not wanting to cause an argument or upset anyone but this is something I have heard before and I cannot logically make sense of.

Tobacco is a natural grown plant and we all know that smoking it produces nicotine, tars and countless other toxic chemicals and the long term effects on our health from it's use. However we take the same cigarette and add a few bits of a different plant (or toasted bits off a brown block) then suddenly all the harmful effect are eliminated and it is supposed to be good for you!! I cannot get my head around that reasoning in any way, shape or form.

By the way I have been a cigarette smoker for good part of my life and whilst writing this I do have a desire to partake, but I will resist as I have for the past year.


Roger

The difference is that nicotine is a naturally grown deadly toxin.  THC is a naturally grown chemical, but its toxicity is almost nil.

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Had a lead guitar player tell me his playing was vastly better when he got stoned. I told him to go smoke some and then join us on stage.
He wasn't all that great sober. Stoned, his playing was measurably worse. HE thought he was better.

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My playing is considerably worse if I smoke.  My hands just freeze up.   It's considerably worse if I drink, too.   My head just freezes up.

On the other hand, I know some guys that bong out and absolutely tear it up.

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