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naolslager wrote:

Zurf,
My mid-life "sports car" is a Ford Taurus with 186,000+ miles on it. A real chick magnet!
David

My sleek and shiny, high speed and low drag mid-life crisis thing was a whitewater kayak that was too much for me.  It was like a Piper Cub pilot trying to fly a jet fighter.  I traded down to the Taurus equivalent and am much happier with it.  I think one of the favorite cars I've ever had was a Taurus.  I'd buy another in a heart-beat.  It might not be a chick magnet, but it's a darned good car.

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

27 (edited by naolslager 2011-01-10 16:29:22)

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I sat the wife down last night to thank her for supporting my guitar habit. This recognition was long overdue. She has been very supportive of the all the time I slip away into my "music room" to practice when I should be checking off items on the honey-do list. She has been flexible and generous during budget discussion for the "just one more guitar". And lastly she has tolerated all the cacophonies I can generate!

If you are in a similar support/supported situation with your spouse - and I suspect most of you are - I encourage you to take moment to thank your significant other. Or maybe I'm just catching up with what you already do?

My ulterior reason for talking to her last night was to ask her to keep me honest with my eBay/Craig's List moratorium. She was surprised at my self-imposed sanction but I think she was impressed I recognized my mission creep and was acting to correct my course.

Atlanta is snowed in today and I home enjoying the winter whiteness. Today would be a great day to pick up a guitar!

By the way I would like to thank my friends here at Chordie. Your support, insight, information, stories, etc are invaluable to me. I consider Chordie one leg of my nuclear guitar triad! (I know, shameless Cold War analogy.)
David

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Two years of "playing" and a recent viewing of the movie "Country Strong" with my teenage daughter may be paying off. She is suddenly interested in learning to play the guitar! In fact, I can hear her practicing now.

She has a huge advantage over me as she actually has musical talent and can summon tears by singing. A regular Siren.

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The 12-string arrived yesterday. Fun. Considering returning the Little Martin, the sound is only so-so esp. for strumming.

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More ranting (my monologue)

Have I fallen off the wagon?
I've whittled my "collection" down to three: Two Canadians and one Little Martin. The latter was purchased new a few weeks ago and I'm struggling with buyer's remorse and I'm not sure I am willing to trade sound for ultimate portability (and less stressful air travel). I've retained the receipt and have thirty days to return it for a refund. Tick tock, Clarice.

Unlike some, I could not be less interested in any electric instruments and really won't even consider an electric-acoustic at this point. So my choices are limited and relatively easy, or they should be. But you know what; there are countless acoustic guitars for my consideration. I have been partially successful with my eBay/Craig's List moratorium but suspect I may have to extend it to guitar shops (brick and mortar) as well. Why only yesterday, proud of myself for not shopping the Internet, I found myself in one of my favorite guitar shops at lunchtime. Oh, the agony and the ecstasy! Of course, this turned my neat and orderly world upside down and I have bruises on my arse where I've been kicking myself ever since.

There was a delicious Alvarez RD-20 priced so as to summon a Pavlovian salivation response so strong I almost needed a bib. And then there was robust offering from the Recording King line. I've been watching these for a few years. It is EXTREMELY difficult not to purchase one of these Asian wonders: all solid woods, beautifully-finished, and more features and tasteful appointment (not garish or cheesy) proffered than a modern Mercury (automobile) TV commercial... and they play, as they say, like butter. Really that is the BEST description.

Really my latest (and most burning) manifestation of guitar acquisition syndrome (GAS) is a mahogany-bodied instrument. Yes, I had one of these, the Guild I scored in Washington, D.C. recently. But it was old (1984) which is cool for the vintage vibe but it was staring down the barrel (double-barreled with rabbit-eared hammers) of a neck reset. I did not want to pursue this. It was playable, and probably would be for some time, but eventually I would need to have this work done. No thanks. So, I sold it (happily) for what I paid for it. No damage done.

For mahogany-body acoustic guitars one needs to look no further than the venerable Martin 15 series guitars. I've studied these, priced these, played these (all variants: D, 00, 000), and engaged in the never-ending "mahogany versus sapelle" debate/controversy. (Spare yourself: don't look into this!) But the Martins consistently cost from $600-$1100 depending on the model and whether it is new or used. And believe you me, you want to conjure a whopping dollop of buyer's remorse just let old David part with this much money for an instrument he can barely play!

Of course Guild offers two mahogany variants with a full palette of wonderful features and quality so high you can eat off of it. But, they too are pricey ($600ish), have a (high) gloss finish which I don't care for, and are produced in Asia. Nothing wrong with imports from Asia, I was raised transporting myself through childhood (and adolescence) on motorcycles manufactured in Japan. These things were reliable and indestructible even with my shameful disregard for preventative maintenance.

Since I've open the door to Asia, we now can consider the entire Asian guitar menagerie. Alvarez offers the RF-20SM (recently supplanted by the RF300) solid mahogany top 000-body guitar. There is no doubt this is a fine specimen of workmanship with sonic qualities well above its class. Available for less than $300 new, it is tempting. I've seen used ones on CL for around $100!

Cort (manufactured in South Korea) offers a solid top (and back) mahogany 000-bodied guitar with Grover open tuners for less than $300 also. These are less readily available but I have found a shop which carries the line and will order one for me.

Then there is the aforementioned Recording King ROS-606 and 616. Designed in the U.S. and manufactured in China, they are high quality, feature laden (bone nut saddle, all-solid mahogany body and neck, Grover tuners, etc.) instruments in the $600-$800 range. This puts them in direct competition with the Martins (and Guilds) with much more "value" than the former w/o the "Made in USA" badge of honor. One con to these guitars is that they are a 12-fret variant (12 frets clear of the body) so their proportions take some getting used to and the nut is a vast 1 and 13/16 inches wide (for finger style). I'm curious if these would adapt well to the dual role of strumming and finger-style. Also the price is likely to summon the buyer's remorse gremlin.

All this said (and written) I've all but talked myself into a frenzy of indecision (which is arguably better than carrying an aura of ignorance around with oneself) but if I was compelled to the purchase today I am likely to accept the low risk of the Alvarez offering.

I've talked to a few people at my church regarding our praise team. I'm not sure I'm quite ready for that but it does offer a degree of anonymity while forcing me to practice and learn songs. The latter is the persistent struggle I face.

Fretfully yours,
David
p.s. I guess I should get back to playing.

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David. you have a dilema.  You are truely gassing big time.  Welcome to the club.  I have been debating for many months between a Gibson and Martin.  I keep changing my mind.  I want to be sure.  I dream, wake up and dream some more.  This is nightly.  I have become real atttached to Martins and believe the extra money is well worth it.  I will no doubt have buyers remorse when I finally purchase my next one, but that is part of the package.  We have to deal with it and get on with life.  Good luck to you.

You can see all my video covers on [url]http://www.youtube.com/bensonp1000[/url]
I have finally found happiness in my life.  Guitars, singing, beer and camping.  And they all intertwine wonderfully.

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hey pbenson,I have that same dream,but I know it will come to the day I have the money and it will be a martin,I have wanted one all my life so I am going to get one. I also have a Gretch penguion in there also.

my papy said son your going too drive me too drinking if you dont stop driving that   Hot  Rod  Lincoln!! Cmdr cody and his lost planet airman

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Here's my thoughts.  Forget the Recording King.  If it is the same price as Guild or Martin, get a Guild or Martin.  Why?  Well, because the things that make guitars sound great are often the same things that make a guitar fragile.  Where will Recording King be in ten years when that neck needs to be reset?  I don't know.  But I do know where Guild and Martin will be.  So, that's my thoughts on that.  Unless you are really itching to play some old finger style blues in the Robert Johnson vein and really, really, really want a 12 fret instrument to do it upon.  In that case, knock yourself out. 

Now, if you're looking for a decent sounding instrument in the $300 range and consider that to be a great price and are indifferent to A/E (meaning you'll ACCEPT electronics but not SELECT for them), then I'd suggest that you look at some of the folk nylon guitars out there.  Ibanez and Alvarez and a few other imports have them.  I think the risk of the neck reset with a nylon string is a lot lower, it will give you an instrument that plays easily but has an entirely different sound from the guitars you already have, and is affordable.  The issue (if you want to call it that) is that most of them come with electronics in them.   If the mere presence of electronics that you don't intend to use doesn't bother you, then that's what I'd be looking at if I were you. 

The other thing you can do is to PUT AWAY YOUR WALLET AND GET BACK TO PLAYING. 

- Zurf

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

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Zurf, always the disciplinarian! Thanks.

I've just admitted to myself what I have know all along. To fulfill my goal I am going to have to SING and play. I don't see any way around this. I have never song solo and I am TERRIFIED. This will defintely get me out of my comfort zone and into a new one. Sing and playing adds a new level of complexity to this effort. I expect much frustration and embarrassment:)
David

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Try this guy's lessons.  There's a whole series of them.  I've found them invaluable, and enjoy his wry humor. 

http://www.ehow.com/video_2388033_findi … etter.html   

- Zurf

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

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My son and I are both learning scales and leads together. Boy , I wish I had more time to practice and younger fingers!

37 (edited by naolslager 2011-01-30 07:24:07)

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traveling through Europe with the Little Martin. Practicing when I can in  the comfy confines of my hotel room.

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Travelling through Europe? Does that include Great(ish) Britain?

" Old Guy is Rocking"
Simon & Patrick Pro Flamed Maple (mmm, nice...)
Norman ST68 acoustic

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Unfortunately not Great Britain, although I'd love to visit there someday. I was in Germany and now I'm a little east of there. In fact, about as far east as one can get and still claim Europe (while residing on the Asian continent): the country of Georgia! A Great country and my travels from Georgia (USA) and Georgia (the country) can make for some cumbersome communications when trying to specify. Not unlike this message.

To see what I'm up against follow this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBtO5oLdZOE
This is NOT me.

The Little Martin proved to be the ablest of travelers as it fits neatly into the overhead bins while on commerical airliners. This is EXACTLY why I bought it.

Normtheguitar, I notice you are fan of the Godin guitar family. My other two guitars are a Art & Lutherie "Wild Cherry" 6-string and a Norman B18-12 (12-string). They are near twins by appearance and lovely, great-sounding, well-built guitars. My first guitar was a Seagull, a great guitar, but I prefer a matte finish and the a non-pointy headstock. I considered an A&L Ami for my travel guitar but it is small but "full-size" which would likely have inhibited me from claiming it a carry-on luggage.

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Back in the USA. I was able to practice quite a bit while traveling last week. It was snowing and/or raining the whole trip which was condusive to staying inside. The Little Martin served well.

However I stumbled upon an Art & Lutherie Ami yesterday which I just had to have! I plan to return the Martin - it has been supplanted. The Ami is only slightly larger but SO much better sounding and actually made from wood, laminate, but wood. And only 1/2 the cost. Sorry Martin.

I also purchased a used mint Yamaha FG-Junior to use as a gift. A co-worker (and fellow player) is retiring at the end of the month. Most likely I will give it to him for something he can travel with. He stops by my office from time to time to play for a minute or two. Always a pleasant experience and he will be missed.

As far as playing goes, I feel as if I am on the brink of discovery. Any day now I may break out in song.

My triplets:
Art & Lutherie Wild Cherry (Almond)
Art & Lutherie Ami Wild Cherry (Almond)
Norman B18-12 Cedar

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Welcome back and don't fight the feeling. Break on out!

When the Power of Love overcomes The Love of Power the world will be a better place.

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My Little Martin has been returned. Nice guitar but not the best choice for me.

On playing: Apparently I am challanged by not having rythym. I can't seem to put it all together, i.e. strumming, progressions, and words (sung under my breath for now). I suppose I can learn to synchronize all this just like I learned to operate a manual transmission many moons ago.

Putting it all together is challenging but not insurmountable.

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I am challenged by the same problem but as you suggested it is possible to put it all together. For me it was a combination of rythm and confidence that kept me from progressing. Once I gained some confidence I began to overcome the the rythm problem. I still have a long way to go to get where I need to be but at least now I can sing and play along with friends and family at gatherings.

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Just bought an '80's Vantage 12 string for $100.00 ! I should say, my wife bought it for me, after a long search in Kijiji. The Vantage is a real solidly-built machine, compared to my broken Gianini 12-string, and its deeper body really resonates. Haven't had a 12-string for several years, and I didn't realize how much I missed that "wall of sound" when playing and singing. Anyone else own a Vantage? Japanese, no longer manufacturing, I think, but well made with a lovely matte finish, not too gaudy and stays in tune forever. Can't be beat for a hundred bucks!

Hank's prosepctive gutiar player said: "Mr Williams, I'm not sure I can play for you, the onliest chords I know are C D & G"
Hank repleis, after a short pause: "Well, what else is there?"

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I'd love a twelve string, but my office is getting pretty full.  I'd have to build on a house extension to fit more guitars.  Not that that's a bad thing...

Granted B chord amnesty by King of the Mutants (Long live the king).
If it comes from the heart and you add a few beers... it'll be awesome! - Mekidsmom
When in doubt ... hats. - B.G. Dude

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Ya, Zurg, know what you mean. I own 5 guitars, a mandolin, 2 ukes and a host of percussion stuff, from Indian drums to tamborines, assorted stands, amps, tons of music books and music stands, mics, etc. etc and, of course etcetera!

My wife is very tolerant - have a room to house all of it.

Hank's prosepctive gutiar player said: "Mr Williams, I'm not sure I can play for you, the onliest chords I know are C D & G"
Hank repleis, after a short pause: "Well, what else is there?"

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The thing is when I look at all the stuff piled up in my little man cave what I see amounts
   to not only things that look different but SOUND different. Each one has it's own thing
   going on and purpose. I play the same, but each one gives me some variety of sound.
   
   Tweak the knobs, add effects, take away effects, switch from the strat to the twangy
   tele- grab the old faithful flat top or the bass for a bass line for that new song in your
   head if recording is on your plate. All this adds to the fun of being creative cause that is
   our nature I think as musicians. Looking forward to bringing home that Gibson or Martin
   is exciting in itself--or---coming home with a new Crafter guitar as I did today totally out
   of the blue. Even horse trading can be fun and exciting.

   Never feel guilty that you have too much or too little. You can be creative with both.

Our intuitions serve us well

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A 12 string is the ONLY way I've found to play more than one guitar at a time!

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I'm proud of myself. A pocket full of money and a severe case of GAS yesterday and I avoided a dose of buyer's remorse. For once, logic and good sense prevailed.

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Here's what I am working with. You may detect a trend.

Okay, I'm an idiot. I've read the instructions about five times and still cannot get the photo loaded. So here's a link:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/G … directlink