Topic: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Went to an open mike night last week and first revelation was no-one pays au-naturelle, all the players plugged in acoustics to the PA.

Now what I don't understand is why we're all playing steel strings. Sure they're good for strumming but I'm finding I need to inject some subtlety, surely nylon's forte?

Anyone up to speed on this?

'The sound of the city seems to disappear'

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Hi Cytania,

I saw an elecric nyton string guitar recently. It was basically an elongated fretboard with the tuning heads at the wrong end, below the bridge. There was no body at all just a 3/4" foam covered tube in the outline of cut away guitar - a most unusual beast.

Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

3 (edited by flester 2008-10-14 13:52:35)

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Steel string guitars are used not just because they are louder (debatable), they just have a different sound and feel to nylons and tend to be associated with different styles. You can get sounds from a nylon that you'd never get from a steel string and vice-versa. Yes, strumming is OFTEN associated with steel strings but it works for Willie Nelson and Leonard Cohen on nylons. It's all about diversity, I'd say.

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Nylon strings have a completely different sound compared to steel strings. It's like playing a different instrument. Steel strings have a much brighter top end. Nylon is more mellow.
Steel strings in general, especially the bass strings, produce more natural harmonics.
Some songs I sing sound better with nylon, others with steel. It's about variety and timbre.
It's as different as a harp and a piano.

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

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Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Hello
Nylon strings are ok for picking, they tend to mumble when strummed.

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Its kind of difficult in open mic forums to have good sound just micing a guitar, and if the open mic involves more than one musician at a time on stage the plugging up ii better and simpler....what I find discouraging tho in the "hoots" and open mics is usually the musicians are so hungry to perform they are doing it for free, the bar is selling its "product" and the host of the open mic is usually getting paid..to me there's a time I guess for open mics in one's growth and socializing thing, but it is like karaoke, it undermines the performer making a living performing....free music so why pay<

8 (edited by AARRFFAA 2008-10-23 11:18:37)

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

I gig with both and they both have their merits. Nylon for the small cafes(Mellow Background Sounds) and steels for the pubs(Rowdy Rock). It's all about personal preference at the end of the day cool

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

brucebarham wrote:

to me there's a time I guess for open mics in one's growth and socializing thing, but it is like karaoke, it undermines the performer making a living performing....free music so why pay

I've been playing around with these boxes with 6 strings for 37 years, just did my very first open mic night this past Monday in Houston. 

Not all people aspire to be paid performers, some of us just enjoy sharing our tunes with others and this is one more way to do so.  I attend various bluegrass events around Texas and jam with others well into the night, but an open mic night in a pub is very different to me.  There is no attempt to undermine anyone in my mind, and I certainly don't see myself as competition for the musician who gets paid for his performances, nor would I want them to feel I were competition.  It's just the same as intramural sports and professional sports, the two are at different levels and do not necessarily need to compete or conflict with each other.

As for the OP's question, I've played classical guitars for all of those 37 years, steel strings for the past 4 or 5....they do have different sounds and I tend to chose from among my 15 guitars depending on the song.....I have some I strum on the classicals while I have some I play fingerstyle on the steel strings, although the reverse is usually more prevalent.  For instrumentals, I tend to prefer the classicals, though, for just the reason mentioned, greater range of expression while playing, but that might just be a reflection of my greater years of experience with the classical guitars than with the steel strings.  I happen to believe that the current crop of classical A/E's sound very natural when plugged into a well sorted PA system.

Dugly cool

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

Well Hello YerDugliness, and Welcome to Chordie!

  Like you I made the transition to steel after I was a player for a few years, and still have both in my arsenal for the very reason that you mentioned.  For all the un-believers out there, get on you-tube and listen to a few Peter White jazz numbers, and I'm sure you will agree that there is an expressiveness that only a Nylon strung instrument can give.  Both have their place in every genre, and to my mindset it is perfectly acceptable to "cross-over" the lines in the quest for a special unique sound.

  Once again Welcome to Chordie and we are hoping to hear more from you.

  Take Care;  Doug

"what is this quintessence of dust?"  - Shakespeare

Re: Why play steel strings when nylon electro-acoustics exist?

I have a nylon electro-acoustic smile

Steel strings and nylons have a slightly different sound
I find some things sound better on steel and some sound better on nylon
A lot of my guitar-playing friends will only play steel 'cause they don't like nylons
Some will only play nylon 'cause they don't like steel,
And some (Like me) will play both...

It's all a matter of taste really...

-Kerry-

All I know is I feel better when I sing.
Burdens are lifted from me.
That's my voice rising.