Topic: barre, open, barre open...

I'm confused... What is the difference? When would you use each? What are  some examples in songs of each?? Please be patient, I'm just learning lol smile

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

Hik starrlee and welcome to chordie. Check out this thread (with barre chord chart) - I think it will be helpful

http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11769

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

Some songs call for a chop rhythm where it is desirable for all strings to start and stop vibrating together. Covered (barre) chords are preferable.
Many songs sound best when as many as possible strings are allowed to ring out open and sustain the sound for as long as possible - a desirable situation for open chords.

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

There was a good article on that topic in Acoustic Guitar a few months ago.  I tried to find it, but came up dry.  I'll try again later when I have more time.  Or you can check for it yourself if you have the time.

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

Thanks!! I love browsing through these forums!!!

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6 (edited by dguyton 2011-06-01 16:44:42)

Re: barre, open, barre open...

In many cases, barres will make your chord changes easier in the long run.  For instance, in one of my favorite songs, "Codemonkey" by Jonathan Coulton, there's a sequence A/E, A, B7, G#, C#m, B, A which come fairly quickly.  Since you have to play A/E as an E shape up at the 6th fret, changing to the straight A is as easy as laying your index finger down on the 5th.  Then you can slide up two (and lift the pinky) for the B7, drop back down 3 frets (and put the pinky down again) to the G#, keep the same shape but down one string to the C#m, down one more to the dreaded B (which I play barred with both the index and middle fingers),  then lift the index and drop two for the open A. 

Barre chords are a vital part of your development as a player, and they make many things really easy; but it will seem like torture for the time it will take to build up the strength and technique to make them possible.

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

Hi,
For me a lot of it depends on the chord I'm coming from and the chord I'm going to play next. ie If I'm playing Bm going to a G, I'm more likely to play the Bm in the Open Position. If I'm going from Bm to Am, I'm more likely to barre it, so it transitions smoothly. That make sense? That's an example, I DO make it up as I go along!  --- Deb smile

8 (edited by dguyton 2011-06-18 12:33:21)

Re: barre, open, barre open...

That's interesting, harpfreak.  If I'm going from Bm to G, I play both as barre chords (they're on the same fret, same shape; just move down one string) which is a very quick and easy change for me.  If you work those barres as chord pairs (play one then the other, back and forth, for a minute or two every day), all those changes become second nature very quickly.

But you're right, the choice of shape depends strongly on what comes before and after.  The variation that I use the most seems to be playing the open E with either index, middle and ring (as everyone learns it first) or playing it with middle, ring and pinky if there's a barre chord following.

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Re: barre, open, barre open...

That's a good idea, thanks! I'm having a hella time moving from the IV to the V using the A Shape. I've been playing about a year and am just starting barre chords. They're terrific! Killer on the hand, though. I look for I's and IV's in my old music sheets, then try them again using the barred chords. I also look for "alphabet runs" ie a turnaround that uses F, G, A. It sounds great, btw finally have a way to play a nice, clean F. smile
A nice progression to practice with (because I'm having a hard time with it wink ) might be Bob Dylan's Lay Lady Lay - G, Bm, F, Am -- Nice walkdown there.