Re: Expecting things for free

I say give when you have the extra to give and the great provider will see that it is returned ten fold. Now expecting to get something for free. If you can't afford it and it is offered take it for what it is worth but if you can afford it pay for what you want or need because if you don't it is concidered stealing. Thats just my thoughts on the whole matter and the basic way of an honest person.

27 (edited by canudigit 2009-07-29 14:23:11)

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SouthPaw41L wrote:

Steve, I knew I smelled a spamrat

Nice try guy, but not true.  You have poor judgement and a bad sense of smell.  I have not once posted SPAM.  You are the one posting links to sites that ask for donations and money making sites, not me sad


SouthPaw41L wrote:

One will never have succes by tooting ones' own horn without solid proof of said tooting. No one will ever recruit paying customers by giving A-G and octave numbering for free, and then request money for additional tutelage. Kids are learning this stuff in public schools at age 5 or 6!!!  'Ya get where I'm comin' from?

If I remeber correctly, my lessons had some solid backing from other chordie members who found the KIDS stuff valuable sad.  That comment sounds like you are degrading anyone who does not know the basics.

I am sure that some of the chorde members who backed me up with comments hurt some feelings, but there is an insterest.

SouthPaw41L wrote:

Get your stuff together, play some gigs, get your face and name out there where you live. You'll get students, they'll come to you, they'll tell their friends, and they'll tell their friends, etc......

Trust me I have played MANY gigs in clubs for about 15 years.  The band I was in was the most poplular band in the local area and we recorded two CD's.  So to sum things up, I have been doing this stuff for most of my life and have seen quite a bit.

I have also been teaching guitar for many years and still teach to this day.  I even have a young student that is legaly blind and I had to switch my way of teaching to help her.
Her mother is very gratefull for doing that.


Again, I expected some negative comments and accept them because they are your opinion which is valid.  I don't want to argue, just understand peoples opinions.  We could throw stones all day (this wouldn't happen if we were face to face) behind the internet walls, but that will get us nowhere.

I will not post anymore post like this, only free lessons and help when I can.  It is not worth the hassle (which started from day one).  This is a waste of time and energy arguing back and forth.  I have learned where most of you are coming from and good with that.

Thanks

Steve

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StranSongs wrote:

Lessons, help and criticism on Chordie isn't given for free - it's given for love. That would be love of the guitar.

Saying that it's for free feels like it's being cheapened, given a value and stuck on a shelf - the cheap shelf.

There's no point in sitting like Canute, ordering the waves to turn back. Access to information without payment is what the internet is about. That in itself has created huge markets for guitars, strings, cd's, instruction videos, capos, tuners, recorders, gig bags etc.

Also how many more guitar teachers are now teaching because of the market built by the songs and lessons given for love? Maybe we should criticise the guitar teachers who don't want to put the effort into building their own teaching businesses - going fishing without bait.

How many of us would never have picked up a guitar or gone back to it if we had not been able to get our hands on songs to play. The old systems of sheet music and so on restricted the development of that market.

Nicely siad smile  If you don't do it for love, then don't do it at all. 

I will use my time an energy on things like lessons and not opininated topics like this.  Things can get very messy fast.

Thanks for your comments

Steve

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You can please some of the people some of the time but ,you can not please all of the people all of the time.

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canudigit wrote:

I will use my time an energy on things like lessons and not opininated topics like this.  Things can get very messy fast.

Thanks for your comments

Steve

lol lol lol

you started the opininated thread lol

But this is not a dig at you Steve. I think it was a good thread to start with just sort of went a bit to one side and became a bit personal.
You were talking about getting things free in general then it turned out all to be about chordie and freebies and other sites and spam and urinated posts, so much urinated posts that i I have not read them all, it got a bit boring after a few and some were just too long for me to try keep consentration to remember what was said to who and when and why to where to I know I am blabbing now lol

I still like freebies and I still like giving advice,lessons,and anything esle free.
I see myself as a bit of a socialist but really I want to be a communist and live in a real communist country but sadly none exist so folk will still try to gain power from the means of more money.
Only reason anyone wants money other than to live off because all governments have forced everyone in the world apart from those lucky few in isolated islands or jungles is because they want power or think they need something they dont.

So now I am thinking freebies are not so good. Next time someone wants to know how to do a Bm the easy way I will tell them after they have traded me something like a couple of carrots or a blanket lol ahh the good old days I have never seen.

KEn

ye get some that are cut out for the job and others just get by from pretending

31 (edited by canudigit 2009-07-29 18:21:41)

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upyerkilt wrote:

you started the opininated thread

I did ask for it, and I got it smile.  I actually enjoyed the comments, but things did get out of hand.  I like to hear other peoples opinions.

I have just come to the conclusion it is not worth the pain it causes.

I just want to help when I can and leave it at that. 

If I were after money, I could put multiple products together and promote them on youtube, myspace, facebook, twitter, word of mouth etc.  This could be considered FREE advertisement, but all these pages already have embeded ads so the bottom line is nothing is 100% FREE.

I am DONE with the FREE subject!

There are more important things to concentrate on like PLAYING GUITAR and helping others when possible for um....free yikes.

One thing is for sure, there has been a lot more "noise" here at the forums since I have been posting here at chordie.


Thanks for all your honest opinions,

Steve

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Steve I wouldn't take all the credit we all have our turns at making noise lol

"Growing old is not for sissies"

Re: Expecting things for free

canudigit wrote:

Trust me I have played MANY gigs in clubs for about 15 years.  The band I was in was the most poplular band in the local area and we recorded two CD's.  So to sum things up, I have been doing this stuff for most of my life and have seen quite a bit.

I have a few friends giggin' locally( west coast Florida) that graduated and/or attended Berklee. What was/is the name of your group and is possible to hear a snippet or two from your CD's? Who knows man, it's a small world and we may actually have some mutual friends.

Give everything but up.

34 (edited by canudigit 2009-07-29 23:30:14)

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The band that I played in was called "Dreams". 

I will post something when I find the CD, it has been years since I listened to the tunes sad

I want to truly thank you all for putting up with me. 

The internet is a crazy place and a very difficult way to communicate since we are all behind the "internet walls" if you know what I mean. 

Most things posted would not be said in person.

Thanks once more for all your patience.

Steve

Re: Expecting things for free

FREE FREE FREE
I am free, I am so free you could call me a music slut. lol
I play in pubs and ask for no money. I played on the street and a beer garden at the balloch folk festival for free. I even cheered a good folk band in the pub for free lol
I think one of them told me they would give me a tenner for cheering but I dont it for free lol



ken

ye get some that are cut out for the job and others just get by from pretending

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Yeah, Upyerkilt.  You play for free at all the pubs and get free beer.  That is my kind of compensation.  Will play for beer.

You can see all my video covers on [url]http://www.youtube.com/bensonp1000[/url]
I have finally found happiness in my life.  Guitars, singing, beer and camping.  And they all intertwine wonderfully.

37 (edited by selso 2009-07-29 22:46:41)

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upyerkilt wrote:

FREE FREE FREE
I am free, I am so free you could call me a music slut. lol
I play in pubs and ask for no money. I played on the street and a beer garden at the balloch folk festival for free. I even cheered a good folk band in the pub for free lol
I think one of them told me they would give me a tenner for cheering but I dont it for free lol



ken

That's funny, dont care who you are.

I personally like things for free especially because I work so hard. I dont understand what the beef is?

Everything is bad including me
But being bad is good policy
Reverend Horton Heat

38 (edited by canudigit 2009-07-29 23:28:27)

Re: Expecting things for free

How about takin what you can, when you can, when you want, if you want, because it's free then i'ts for me.  This could be the chorus to a tune  lol  Anybody in?

Steve

39 (edited by canudigit 2009-07-29 23:26:11)

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selso wrote:

That's funny, dont care who you are.

I personally like things for free especially because I work so hard. I dont understand what the beef is?

Where's the beef? lol

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canudigit wrote:
selso wrote:

That's funny, dont care who you are.

I personally like things for free especially because I work so hard. I dont understand what the beef is?

Where's the beef? lol

thats my point? frees good unless you take advantage

Everything is bad including me
But being bad is good policy
Reverend Horton Heat