Topic: Automotive thread.....

I saw a cooking thread so I said why not try it, worse that could happen is no one replies!!
Here's my dilema I have a 99 contour that was working great till two days ago. It started stuttering like if it wants to turn off. I changed the spark plugs and two of them had oil on the threads. I changed the wires and the problem got a little better but you can still feel the stuttering a bit. Any ideas should I try to change the coil next!!!

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Re: Automotive thread.....

Does the car smoke after idling for a while? I worked for 3 years with GM and was a diagnostic specialist with Autozone for 4-5 years... Mainly just educating employees and such. If you're close by either an Autozone or Advance, I'd say stop in and have them run an OBD2 diagnostic scan on it. It's free for cars newer than '96 and it will give you a good starting point.  I'll try to help as much as I can though, on here...   

Chances are it's not the coil, Generally speaking, A coil will start to show signs when it's hot (loseing fire) and oil on the plugs would indicate either the rings or valve seals. If it smokes a little all the time, it's rings, If it only smokes after prolonged idling it probably valve seals... Get it scanned first. With all the sensors controlling timing now a days it's a good idea, before you start tearing into anything. Heck it could very well be something as simple as a vacum leak causing it to run rough, but the oil on the plugs is a sure sign of future, more serious problems..

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I have not seen smoke at all but if I put it in drive it starts to stutter also in reverse, in park it lessens it's stutter. When I open the oil cap in the engine a little white smoke does come out, also when I pull out the dip stick some white smoke comes out but nothing major. Also I took it to autozone and got it checked with the little machine or OBD2 diagnostic scan, and he said nothing came out bad, he said maybe it was a blown fuse! Could it be something like oxygen sensors or the PCV VALVE. I made a little list of things I might try
Pcv valv, fuel filter, MAF sensor oxygen sensor, coil. hopefully I stumble onto something before having to give up and go to the mechanic!!!

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Re: Automotive thread.....

If it was me I'd start off by looking really good for vacuum leaks (there is a really neat trick to this involving a propane torch but I won't go there...Just incase) Just get down and look and listen to all your lines. Pop the hood at night in a very dark area and look for any arching in the wires.. Next you can go the pcv valve since it's really cheap, and the fuel filters not a bad idea either. I doubt it's an O2 sensor, as they usually result in just lower mpg and will show up on a scan (Though sometimes the scanner reads them as misfires) Have you gotten gas anywhere different lately? Could be water/ trash in the lines. Run it till it's about empty and then fill up with high test....If you suspect water, you can add half a bottle of rubbing alcohol, as it will allow the gas and water to mix and burn out. Never, put just a little gas in a car and use fuel injector cleaner or put more than one bottle in a tank!! It will burn the valves!

All this is just off the top of my head... I'll give it some real thought and drop you an email with some more ideas..-Pix

[b][color=#FF0000]If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something.
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The MAF (Mass airflow sensor) on fords, usually will make it sputter during idle but it usually levels out with some gas....  This is also referred to as a TPS (Throttle position sensor) on most other models...  Ford uses the MAF as a TPS on some of their vehicles... So you may have both or just the MAF.. If it's located on top of the air induction chances are you only have the MAF.  if you have both than it would more than likely be the TPS rather than the MAF, But again that should have shown up on a scan...  Also you may want to check out the Crank or Cam position sensor, These took the place of distibutors when electronic ignition took over and they tell your engine when to fire... They can also cause your problem.  90% of these sensors ( MAF, TPS, CPS, MAP...) can be checked at Autozone to see if they are bad before you buy a new one. Even the coil can be checked. So before you go and buy a lot of parts have them to check them for you. If they say they can't, then ask for the manager and he will make sure it get's done for you. Sometimes the employees love to just say it's not possible instead of actually taking the time to help a customer properly... Sorry wink I'm just thinking/writting out loud here...:)

[b][color=#FF0000]If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something.
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Re: Automotive thread.....

Another thing it could be is the "Muffler bearing exhaust gasket" if you have high humidity.

Later, Wayne P

Re: Automotive thread.....

wlbaye wrote:

Another thing it could be is the "Muffler bearing exhaust gasket" if you have high humidity.

lol  Good old Muffler Bearing!


How 'bout the 710 cap lol

Or a set of rings for a RX7 wink

[b][color=#FF0000]If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something.
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Hey thanx pix I'm gonna take the car today and get another test, cuz this employee did look like he was just waiting to clock out and go home!  I did put gas at this little HEB grocerey store I always put gas at walmart! There is this loud hiss sound but I thought it was the air condition but I turned on the car with no a/c and i still hear a loud hiss like alot of air escaping!! Anyway let me try some of these things and thanx for the info. CHORDIE-for all your guitar and automotive needs. LOL!!!

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Re: Automotive thread.....

Cool, That's a good idea! Just for refrence... The sensors and coil do have to be removed by you before they can be checked individually.  They have to be bench tested inside. The scan should pick them up anyway though. I just didn't want you to show up and tell them to check the sensors individually because of my advice smile

[b][color=#FF0000]If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something.
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Re: Automotive thread.....

If'n I was a betting man I would thing it has jumped timing, Most cars of today, and that era as well, has plastic timing chains, This is a very common occurance. This is where a diagonstic check comes in as previously stated.

Nela