1 (edited by obscure 2009-02-13 16:05:43)

Topic: im so new i dont know whats going on

help? ok i know its about music duh, but never been exposed or interested in becoming a song writer until i felt music through my veins like what drugs do but billion times better, so my question is and im sorry if i make no sense , when you look at other peoples songs (and by this i mean You look at the song from a member in this case KAP54 with his song " I despise all your lies" do you follow the lyrics and play the harmony, and you create your own melody as you play these chords and sing these lyrics? or am i missing something bigger than myself???  please I repeat...HELP!!


"Music comes with inspiration and inspirations is what you make of things, those things that inspire you is music" EOD

Re: im so new i dont know whats going on

Hi obscure, Let me be the first to welcome you to Chordie smile...Welcome to Chordie.

Songs posted here are posted so other writers can critique there works. They are also meant for others to play and try to visualize how the writer intended it to sound. It is a good excersize when writing to do this as you have a tedancy to come up with your own material"musically wise".Hope to see some of your own works up here soon.
We have a recording section also with lots a valuable info. Other members can and do help by adding the instrument they excell at to complete and record a song.
Lots of friendly people here so don't be afraid to ask any questions.

Hope this helps you out smile

Kenny(kap54)

PS...Glad you liked the song

Just Keepin on Keepin on
Martin DC15E
Cort MR710F
Squire Strat (Chinese)

Re: im so new i dont know whats going on

obscure that's a tough one to answer, its near impossible to get the Melodie just from a set of chords over words untill this person posts this song on there website but you can get a feel and a idea of the song by playing the chords because the chords suggest a Melodie.I have been playing and writing songs for many years and even I dont really know what the Melodie is,only a "feeling"for the rhythm and lyrics smile

"Growing old is not for sissies"

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Hi Obscure and welcome to Chordie,

To me, the beauty of the original songs in this section is that you do not know the melody. I play the chords and put my own melody to the song as I sing the words. Even when the composer has recorded the song I always play it first and then listen to how different my version is to how the composer intended it - great fun.

Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

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Must say that I only play the songs that I hear recorded. Phil Williams kind of shocked me into trying to write my own when he added music to a poem I'd written.

"What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understandin' ."    Elvis Costello

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hi obscure welcome to chordie i came on here about the same question as you annd i just started reading through the posts and something marvelous happened i started writing my own songs ,i wrote eleven in two days,now i have 175 in 18mths and i write about three a week,chordie gave me the inspiration and now i post all my songs on here for them to enjoy,have fun....stay cool

love is life ,life is for love,keep a true heart and live life to the full....stay cool

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Hello everyone and thank you for your help. I cant wait to start putting some of these songs up but yes i have a lot of questions, you are all songwrites, what is the best advise you could give to someone whos just starting? thanks again and i would also like to be part of a song creation process i would really really really really love to help anyones project , oh and one more questions, do you guys sell your songs? how do you do this omg im so lost but i think ive found an exellent source of information thank you guys again!!

Re: im so new i dont know whats going on

Hi obscure
You are going to get lots of different responses on this so I am going to respectfully ask the moderators to move this thread over to the Chat Section as this section is meant for the written song only. No Disrespect. smile

Writing a song is easy but complex at the same time. It is real easy to write down a bunch of words that rhyme, but I believe that what you write must follow certain guide lines.

You should try and paint a picture so when someone is reading the words only, it is easy to visualize what is being said.

Have your song written  in a story form with a beginning, middle and ending or if you are making a statement, have each verse say something different but relevant.

Try and stay away from cliches.

Try not to use too many little words like...it, and, but, and so on as it clutters up what you are trying to say.

Try and come up with a good hook-line in the chorus, as that is what will grab your reader so he will remember it.

Always, Always, Always punctuate properly as this gives the reader the flow of how the song goes.

Always , Always, Always use spell check cause if we can't read what your saying we won't be able to get the proper flow.


I'm no pro at writing, this is just how I see it. smile
We're all amateurs sharing a common love of writing.


Hope it helps

Kenny

PS In the recording section there is a place to volunteer your services. Russell's the man over there so ask and you shall receive.

No such thing as a dumb question. smile

Just Keepin on Keepin on
Martin DC15E
Cort MR710F
Squire Strat (Chinese)

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KAP54 wrote:

Hi obscure
You are going to get lots of different responses on this so I am going to respectfully ask the moderators to move this thread over to the Chat Section as this section is meant for the written song only. No Disrespect. smile

This is James's section to Moderate and it is his decision as to whether to move it but I would, with respect, disagree with you Kenny and leave it here were it my decision to make. I think that the question and responses are very relevant to the Songwriting section. To my mind the 'Chat' section is for items that are not covered by any of the other section and discussing how to write a song should remain here.

By the way your answer to Obscures question is right on the button.The only thing I would add is to learn how to use the Chopro formatting (as explained by James in his 'Sticky' at the start of the section) so that the song is present well and can be easily printed.

Roger

"Do, or do not; there is no try"

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No sweat Roger smile Just wasn't sure and now I know.

I'm sure others have different ideas on how songs should be written and how they come up with their ideas.I'd also like to read these as there can't be one formula(so to speak)

obscure,if you need a hand formatting the Chopro don't be afraid to ask. smile

Kenny

Just Keepin on Keepin on
Martin DC15E
Cort MR710F
Squire Strat (Chinese)