Excellent responses!
Thanks
Steve
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Excellent responses!
Thanks
Steve
Hi Jarome,
Thanks for the reply:)
I will help when I can and just want to bury the hatchet with this thread. Nobody has all the answers.
The best thing is to share ideas and experiences so we can ALL learn from each other.
Thanks once again Jarome, I am looking forward to helping out when I can in here at chordie.
Thanks,
Stephen
Thanks for adding comments to this thread.
It's nice to hear about different experiences because what works for one person may not work out so well for another. Also, nobody has all the answers and this type of feedback is great for trying out different suggestions to find what works best for you.
Thanks
Steve
Thanks for replying. There is some great advice that was added to this post by the moderators.
I just thought this kind of post would help with the frustrations of learning to switch chords.
Basically any chord change either has NO fingers in common with the next chord or SOME common fingers. Changing the un common fingers should be done in the middle of transitioning from chord to chord and not one finger at a time.
I will get a video together since it is easier to SEE in a video than explain.
Thanks,
Steve
Hello,
If you are having problems switching between chords, try this approach and see if it helps.
When going from one chord to another, look for common fingering in both chords and practice not moving those fingers. The less finger movement between chords the better.
That takes care of the common fingers, now for the fingers that change between chords.
This is a biggie! When moving from one chord to the next that require changing fingers, practice moving all fingers at the same time when switching to the next chord.
In my experience, just about everyone tries to move un common fingers one at a time which inhibits switching between chords.
Summary:
Look at the chord your playing and the next chord in the progression.
Take note of common fingerings and concentrate on not moving those fingers.
Move all the fingers that are not common as soon as you move away from the first chord.
I hope that this helps with some of the frustrations of learning to play chord progressions.
If this is not clear and you would like to see a YouTube video, let me know and I will post one (if that's ok with the moderators).
Thanks
Steve
I have been very busy with some family issues for quite a while so I haven't visited this thread in a while (sorry about that).
It seems I am still getting "beat up" after all this time.
When I first joined I was only looking for chord progressions to practice some songs and is why I did not read the music theory thread.
tonynulty, you didn't notice that jerome himself helped out start this thread did you????
If jarome had an issue, he wouldn't have let this thread continue and I appreciate him doing so.
I would like to get back to helping people with questions so I will just drop this thread and watch the music theory threads and help out there.
Thank you all who have had my back on this "out of control" thread.
Thanks
Steve
Hmmm....Well, I just registered here today and I don't want to make you feel like a little kid but I'll be turning 60 in August. Don't feel bad, I feel like an old man. I've been playing the guitar for 43 years and you probably know more than I do. I've seen some 14 year old "young men" that can flat burn the strings up and I wish I could play that well.
There is no age restriction to playing guitar. I can see myself playing guitar until my fingers bind up and even then I may try learning to play with my toes
That's funny, dont care who you are.
I personally like things for free especially because I work so hard. I dont understand what the beef is?
Where's the beef?
How about takin what you can, when you can, when you want, if you want, because it's free then i'ts for me. This could be the chorus to a tune Anybody in?
Steve
The band that I played in was called "Dreams".
I will post something when I find the CD, it has been years since I listened to the tunes .
I want to truly thank you all for putting up with me.
The internet is a crazy place and a very difficult way to communicate since we are all behind the "internet walls" if you know what I mean.
Most things posted would not be said in person.
Thanks once more for all your patience.
Steve
you started the opininated thread
I did ask for it, and I got it . I actually enjoyed the comments, but things did get out of hand. I like to hear other peoples opinions.
I have just come to the conclusion it is not worth the pain it causes.
I just want to help when I can and leave it at that.
If I were after money, I could put multiple products together and promote them on youtube, myspace, facebook, twitter, word of mouth etc. This could be considered FREE advertisement, but all these pages already have embeded ads so the bottom line is nothing is 100% FREE.
I am DONE with the FREE subject!
There are more important things to concentrate on like PLAYING GUITAR and helping others when possible for um....free .
One thing is for sure, there has been a lot more "noise" here at the forums since I have been posting here at chordie.
Thanks for all your honest opinions,
Steve
Lessons, help and criticism on Chordie isn't given for free - it's given for love. That would be love of the guitar.
Saying that it's for free feels like it's being cheapened, given a value and stuck on a shelf - the cheap shelf.
There's no point in sitting like Canute, ordering the waves to turn back. Access to information without payment is what the internet is about. That in itself has created huge markets for guitars, strings, cd's, instruction videos, capos, tuners, recorders, gig bags etc.
Also how many more guitar teachers are now teaching because of the market built by the songs and lessons given for love? Maybe we should criticise the guitar teachers who don't want to put the effort into building their own teaching businesses - going fishing without bait.
How many of us would never have picked up a guitar or gone back to it if we had not been able to get our hands on songs to play. The old systems of sheet music and so on restricted the development of that market.
Nicely siad If you don't do it for love, then don't do it at all.
I will use my time an energy on things like lessons and not opininated topics like this. Things can get very messy fast.
Thanks for your comments
Steve
Steve, I knew I smelled a spamrat
Nice try guy, but not true. You have poor judgement and a bad sense of smell. I have not once posted SPAM. You are the one posting links to sites that ask for donations and money making sites, not me .
One will never have succes by tooting ones' own horn without solid proof of said tooting. No one will ever recruit paying customers by giving A-G and octave numbering for free, and then request money for additional tutelage. Kids are learning this stuff in public schools at age 5 or 6!!! 'Ya get where I'm comin' from?
If I remeber correctly, my lessons had some solid backing from other chordie members who found the KIDS stuff valuable . That comment sounds like you are degrading anyone who does not know the basics.
I am sure that some of the chorde members who backed me up with comments hurt some feelings, but there is an insterest.
Get your stuff together, play some gigs, get your face and name out there where you live. You'll get students, they'll come to you, they'll tell their friends, and they'll tell their friends, etc......
Trust me I have played MANY gigs in clubs for about 15 years. The band I was in was the most poplular band in the local area and we recorded two CD's. So to sum things up, I have been doing this stuff for most of my life and have seen quite a bit.
I have also been teaching guitar for many years and still teach to this day. I even have a young student that is legaly blind and I had to switch my way of teaching to help her.
Her mother is very gratefull for doing that.
Again, I expected some negative comments and accept them because they are your opinion which is valid. I don't want to argue, just understand peoples opinions. We could throw stones all day (this wouldn't happen if we were face to face) behind the internet walls, but that will get us nowhere.
I will not post anymore post like this, only free lessons and help when I can. It is not worth the hassle (which started from day one). This is a waste of time and energy arguing back and forth. I have learned where most of you are coming from and good with that.
Thanks
Steve
Thanks Guitarpix, I do remember and will continue to contribute when I can .
Steve
It just seems odd that with all the things going on in the world that people can complain about free sharing and others using that shared knowledge... -Pix
I have answered posts and also put up a free lesson here at chordie and will continue to help when I can. I did not ask for anyting in return. Once again I am just trying to see where you are all coming from. This is a discusion which ends up with differences in opinion.
Thanks
Steve
They also practice communism .
Wow you guys are rough .
Russell_Harding how come you didn't just post the link from wikipedia instead of copying and pasting it here? Just kidding .
I hear what you are all saying and appreciate your point of view . Instead of a chat this turned into a little spat. I consider this to be a learning experience and was just trying to see where others are coming from.
The bottom line seems to be do whatever you want to as long as you do not infringe against someone. Even with that, there are some who will cheat the system.
Thanks
Steve
This is a good thread to see other points of view like Guitarpix .
If we ALL had your point of view Guitarpix there would be no progress. If we ALL worked for free then some would work while others feed off of the workers hard work sort of like "socialism" which has never worked.
Thanks,
Steve
That was just a generalization and thanks for the recomendation to contact Per for advertising opportunities .
If you think about it, expecting things free is actually where the world is going sort of like a feeling of entitlement. I can see a world where there will be no value in working.
Software developers will stop developing software because of all the pirates giving their hard work away for free. People teaching for free so there will be no need for teachers to work for pay.
What I am trying to say is I have and still do pay $ my dues, like many others, which has a direct effect on the growth of companies like guitar magazines, books, videos, software etc.
Now the tables have turned to where the majority of people expect things for free which will in turn have a negative effect on the growth of the same very compainies and anyone who has a passion to succed. Why work when someone is giving it for free.
I look forward to hearing your responses
Thanks
Steve
So if I was to put up a website that has free guitar lessons with a blurb about donations, that has advertisement and most of the lessons are pay lessons, I can post a link here at chordie?
Once again, I did not ask for any kind of money for sharing my knowledge here at chordie.
Just trying to find a common ground for links that are in directly linked to money making sites.
Thanks
Steve
Steve whats your point? it seems you are trying to rationalize your reasons for the same topic you opened in the Chordie editors forum of charging a fee for your input my response is the same no,
That wasn't for my input, that was in case there was an interest in having lessons taught by chordie members that would share the revenue with the lesson originator and the chordie website owner. As I stated in that thread it was merely a suggestion.
I have made a few posts here that were re directed to sites that ask for donations and some actually have lessons for sale. I offered the help for free and re direction links seem to be in the best interest of the person re directing the links.
I am just trying to make sense of the FREE things that are not realy being FREE (asking for donations, having some lessons free with other lessons paid, advertising on the sites).
I thought this was not an acceptable practice since it realy is an in direct way of asking for money with some free stuff mixed in.
Thanks
Steve
Hello,
I would like to get some opinions on the subject of expecting things for free.
It seems we are now in a world where just about everyone expects to get things for free. This seems to be the case with the younger generation and is the direction the world is going.
THEN:
In my experience, I had to spend a ton of money over the years buying magazines, books, methods etc. not to mention paying for guitar lessons before the digital age changed everything.
I also had to buy the music if I wanted to play the guitar magazine tab along with the recording. No special software that plays the tab, just old shool learning how to play guitar. I also learned the art of patience, which is just about non existent today.
Have you ever heard of the term "I don't know what it is, but I want it". This is purely a lack respect for things and just wanting things that you don't need (oh yea I forgot to mention I want it NOW!)
If I didn't have the money for lessons, guess what, the my teacher said "come back when you can afford the lessons".
That sounds kinda rough, but think of the guitar teachers point of view. He was a graduate from Berklee College of Music and had to pay back his tuition.
I even asked another Berklee College graduate for a FREE guitar lesson when I was completing my Electronic Engineering Degree and guess what he said "I had to pay for college so why should I give you a free lesson"? I said because "I want to take sort of a test drive lesson". His response was "I didn't get that type of test drive in Berklee, why should you?"
This is when people actually valued their learning experience because they had to pay for it in money and time.
I understand how to value someones time and actually pay for it. Things have changed quite a bit since then.
When I was learning to play guitar the sheetmusic, recording industry and other guitar related compainies were thriving and doing well.
NOW:
Just about everyone expects some things for FREE nowadays. Some people go as far as lying and saying they can't afford lessons and most of the time someone comes to the rescue and bails someone out (yes people lie about things like this just for freebies).
Look at justinguitar.com saying if you can't afford lessons then there are free lessons available.
There are some free lessons, but there is a blurb asking for donations and there are quite a few lessons that are for sale not to mention the google ads. This is an indirect way to make money and the FREE statement is not entirely true.
Not everybody is making a comfortable living and can afford to give things away for free.
I am sure there will be quite a bit of negative resonses, but be honest so we can all make sense of this valid and true post.
Thanks
Steve
I am hosting all my own images here at chordie. I have no problems putting something together that would work nicely. Give me one of your favorite chord progressions (no infringement on chord progressions) and I will put up a bare lead sheet so we can have something to read and interpret own way. This could be fun!
Thanks
Steve
Think of the guitar as if it were laying flat in front of you on a table. Now imagine as if you were to pick the guitar up and hold it. Looking down on the guitar strings you would see the thickest string first. Each line on the guitar tab represents a guitar string.
The next example shows numbers on the guitar tab lines. These numbers indicate which fret(s) to press. The string number combined with the fret number tells you exactly which note(s) to play. You don't even have to read any music, just numbers.
The guitar tab in the example above shows which notes to play but DOES NOT show when and how long to play the notes. This is one of the problems with reading guitar tab alone. Standard notation conveys a lot more information but takes quite some time to read fluently.
I hope this helps.
Steve
I forgot about lead sheets .
I think notation and reading have there place of importance but any lead sheet is left to the interpretation of the person reading it and is not exact it is only a guide
I couldn't have said it better. Russell, nice job on the website and your songs sound great!
Is anyone interested in coming up with a standard lead sheet, say 32 bars, and hearing how many different interpretations we can come up with?
Thanks
Steve
It wasn't an attack HONESTLY. I was just trying to be funny and failed miserably, sorry for that .
Thanks
Steve
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