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well it started out like this ...Mom will you help me pay for guitar lessons ..please....and  she said .. sorry son we dont have the money to pay for these lesson you want. you'll just have to learn from your friends...in my mind im thinkin what friends ..that i know ..even know how to play the guitar ...but i did learn from other people....slowly but surely.. but than the internet appeared and i became a sponge and i must have more input