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Going with a kid (he's 21...jeez I'm getting old) from my youth group to buy his first Acoustic guitar on Friday Morning. Have a coupon from Guitar Center for 20% off any one item between 8 and 10 in the morning, so he'll be able to score a $400 insturment for around $320...if my math is right.
So, you have $350-400 in your pocket and you're in the market for an electric / acoustic---what do you buy? And if you have any good / bad stories about YOUR guitar in this price range, let me here them.
Thanx Chordians!
Frank
Zurf, I just got back from the National Youth Workers Convention in Atlanta, and there was some INCREDIBLE worship going on. In the middle of his set, David Crowder says "I feel a howdown coming on!" and breaks into "I saw the Light" that braught the house down. He's just flat-out the best worship leader I've ever seen.
These are great stories! I don't have anything, but Rebel, you mentioned Ebenezer Baptist church, and it reminded me of a church with a great name I went to once when we were visiting some of my wife's relitives in North Carolina; Bear Swamp Creek Baptist Church---that's a keeper!
OK, I have a good one from this side of the pond--there are two towns in centeral Pensylvania, "Paradise", and down the road is a town called "Intercourse". An old friend of mine in college had a T-Shirt that said "You have to go through Intercourse to get to Paradise"....which, logisticly, was perfectly true.
Sorry if I'm stepping over the line....just talking geography here.
It is a hot sunny day, the local saloon bar is filled with the local townspeople, in one corner a game of poker is in progress and in another is a stage with musical instruments upon it. Then the saloon doors open and a figure is silhouetted between them. A hush falls over the room as this man ambles in. He tall, broad of shoulder (possibly a 41" chest) and narrow of hip, slightly bow legged, wearing heeled riding boots with jangling, silver spurs. He has Levi 501's with a denim shirt, a colourful silk bandana at his neck and a Stetson upon his head. Around his waist is a magnificently tooled, silver buckled leather belt with a matching holster on his left holding a bone handled Colt Peacemaker balanced by a large Bowie knife sheathed on his right. His face is deeply tanned and a hand rolled cigarette dangles from the corner of his mouth. He smiles ruefully and breaks the silence with a slowly drawled "Now you all relax and enjoy your drinks. I done come here to entertain you all" as he makes his way to the stage.
Man, Roger, I want to read the rest of the story! This is good! Put down that guitar and write my friend!
Frank.
I've played with a guy who uses a small Spider (about $110), and mic's it. The amp is very clean...very precise. Sure, all tube is great, blah, blah, blah---but I thought this thing sounded great for the money.
OK, I'll embarass myself here....1983 I was the DRUMMER in an air band that won a contest at my college--Miami of Ohio. We had special effects and everything, which consisted of putting baby powder in balloons and popping them with cigarettes. Our best number was the live version of "Under my Thumb" by the Stones. We won $25 which purchased some pretty significant "refreshment" in a college town in '83.
Welcome PJ!
Lot of good advice so far...don't know if I have anything to add....
I tried filing my calluses before--made my fingers slick and they wouldn't hold the strings. I just wind up cutting off what I don't want with fingernail clippers. And I think the flatness helps--mine are flat as h.....well, they're flat.
When I started playing (5 yrs ago), I'd pick out a couple chord changes, turn on a hockey game and play the changes the entire game...helped me think about something other than what my fingers were doing too, so the movement sort of started hapening on it's own, if that makes any sense.
I've always just wanted to be a rhythm guy...learned one scale that I play very slowly, and not very clean, but that's ok with me, I'm sort of like that guy in the Dire Straits song: "check out guitar george, he knows all the chords, but he's strictly rhythm he doesn't want to make it cry or sing."
I always liked doing unplugged versions of rock songs--a lot are simple three / four chord patterns. Sweet Child of Mine is fun, Just Like Heaven by the Cure is fun acousticly, so is Behind a Wall of Sleep by the Smithereens...
have fun!
Frank.
Great topic! I think music becomes art when it's driven by emotion....that's when it becomes timeless--I think that is so cool about music / art; I can listen to Barber's Adagio for strings and not so much "hear" what other people have heard, but I can "feel" what other people have felt. I think Clapton played the solo in "while my guitar gentlely weeps", and man, you can feel the emotion in his playing. I think a big problem with a lot of music today, is that it is so engineered, so technically precise, that the emotion is sqeezed out of it. I'll take Neil Young playing a raggedy solo on "Keep on Rockin' in a Free World", than some perfect piece--there's soul in that music.
But how do I play? I'm transitioning, I think--I usually am so concerned with not messing up, I forget to have fun & make the music mine & just play...but I'm working on it.
Don't kow if you've ever seen that show on PBS, "Antiques Roadshow"--saw a guy on there a few weeks ago, had an old Beatles Album and this guy was apraising it--said that condition was everything; the spine needs to be perfect, the inner sleave, the record itself....this Beatles album looked like it was right off the store shelf so it was worth a bunch.
Do you have any of your albums framed? We have this craft store called Michaels, and every now and then they'll have album frames on sale for like $5.00--I have about half a dozen hanging on my wall including the first album i ever got--Aerosmith Dream on...this thing is messed up, but it's still hanging proudly on my wall.
man, reading about all your guitars is incredible----
My main acoustic is a Carvin, I also have a Simon Patrick Cedar that has a great tone.
I picked up a cheap electric a few months ago just to putz around on--it's a washburn maverick series. Good looking guitar but the pick up's are ummmm....shouldn't talk bad about my guitar, so I'll just say they could be better. Don't think it's worth upgrading so I'll just hold out for my PRS.
Love my Carvin, but a laravee would be nice.....
Saint Anger, a friend of mine just got a T-5 and absolutely loves it--very cool insturments.
Good point.....and can't you use some alternate tuning so you can play power chords with one finger?
You know, I was thinking of having Carmen Diaz as my mistress, so that works out well!! ha!
I have a beter idea for my movie, I'm going to play me, and Jessica Alba is my leading lady...now we're talkin'!
OK, I've had this idea for a topic & haven't posted it because I can't think of an answer, but I'm going to post it anyway.
They make a movie--your life story...what actor plays you, and what is the theme song.
I'm thinking Michael Keaton would play me...and I'm still working on the theme song...early me might be 5:15 The Who...man I love that song....
This might be a very dumb topic....but what the heck....
Yea!! Breakthrough, Zurf. I have to tell you, I couldn't play a barre chord for 2-3 years, but once the breakthrough happens, you'll wonder why you couldn't play them all allong.
Talk about posture, know what I don't get, is rockers who sling their guitar real low, and can still hit bare chords. I've tried it....trying to look cool in the mirror, and my left wrist is bent severely...I don't know how they do it.
I love that line, that rock is "blues on crack"!!
"Workin' at the Car Wash Blues"....fun song to play--great lyrics: "you know I should be sittin' in an air conditioned office in a swivel chair, talkin' some trash to my secritary, sayin 'here now mama come on over here'. Instead I'm stuck here rubbin these fenders with a rag, and walkin' in my soggy ol' shoes, well I got them steadily depressin' low down mind messin' workin' at the car wash blues."
Hey, remember when they marketed the Bay City Rollers as the next Beatles? Think they said the same thing about The Knack too....lol
For what it's worth, and this could get me banished to the island of missfit guitarists, I appreciate the Beatles, but I don't particularly like them. Seems that every Beatles song gets a free-pass to classic status because The Beatles did it. For instance, Hey Jude (this is going to get me shot), that song needs to be edited big-time. It goes no where. Redundant & self indulgent if you ask me. Don't own any Beatles records...I do like to play "back in the USSR" though...
I like scarry movies, but I'm with you Zurf don't know how someone could even conceve the violence in the gore movies, and I don't know how anyone could watch them and consider it entertaining...there are images i just do not want in my head. I know it's "make believe", but I just don't see how watching someone elses pain, even make believe pain, is fun....just don't get it.
And Halloween is over the top anymore in the states. Used to be you find some stuff laying around the house, make up a costume and go trick-or-treating...every other kid was a football player, or a hobo becuase that's the stuff you had laying around. Now it's HUGE business. Within a one mile radius of my house we had 4 Halloween super-stores.
I'm sure they were lousy in Edinburgh in '88, but all i know is they were great in Cincinnati in '78!
Probably has to do just with the timing too...17 yrs old...there wtih my best friends....great memories!
OK, forgive me for this one, but the best concert I ever saw, hands down, was KISS, the Destroyer tour. 15 feet from the stage....unbelievable.
My ears haven't stopped ringing.
If it's a classical guitar, you'll use nylon strings, otherwise, use steel strings.
It will take a while before you find the brand & gage of strings that fit you the best. I suggest you stay to the "Extra Light" or "Light" gage...maybe a "10" or "11" which is the gauge of the e string. I'd stay away from the expensive coated strings to begin with--if you don't like them, you've made a $14 mistake instead of a $6 mistake. You'll get a lot of different answers here, but I'm a fan of "DR" strings.
Oh, and wipe the strings down after you're done playing--it will really help extending the life by getting the dirt & oil from your fingertips off.
Even when rookies play my guitar, I think it sounds better than when I play it....I think it has something to do with hearing it from "on top" of the insturment, vs. being out in front. There may be some validity to that but it could be just an excuse that works for me! Feel free to use it too.
And I think what you're feeling, is good in a way--it just means you aren't satisfied and want to get better. I remember just wanting to make it through a song without having to come to a screatching stop between each chord....then I just wanted to be able to actually play along with a recording (thought I'd NEVER be able to do that one), then I wanted to be able to learn barre chords so I didn't have to cheat all the time....it's always something. Heck, it took me almost 3 years before I took my guitar out of my house! Just get joy from playing Twist--music is a gift, for your own soul and other people too...believe it or not!
Rebel, I've been trying out guitars in that price range for a friend of mine who is just learning how to play, and I played a G series Takamine a couple weeks ago, and I agree with you--so many guitars in this price range sound thin and "tinny" to me--they just don't have any character, and I thought the Takamine had a nice tone. There was a Washburn in the same range that I liked as well, but it didn't have any electronics. Now the big question....what you going to name it?
I played one about 6 months ago at a shop--had a very full, rich voice, I loved it.
I don't know much, but I think there is a lot of image wraped up in owning a Martin or Taylor--yes, fantastic guitar's, but I agree with you, I think you pay for all the advertising as well as the guitar.
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