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(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

All1Song wrote:
All1Song wrote:

THE OLD LAUGHING LADY NEIL YOUNG

Gill,
Please read;
http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=120

In the future you'll need to share your lyrics,chords, and tabs, via private e-mail to the inquisitive one(s). Take a second or two and read over the "sticky" posts at the beginning of each section you choose to post in and situations like this one can be avoided. Thanks in advance for your future complying with the guidelines, it is a very important to the survival of this wonderful website.

*****edited by SouthPaw41L*************

My bad, Sorry about that. Since these were available for free to the public from The Neil Young PDF songbook I didn't think there would be a problem posting. Anybody can download that PDF songbook. It is available for free and Neil Young is fully aware of it.  In fact when I met Neil last year and told him I play a bunch of his songs on YouTube he was stoked and encouraged me to keep it up. He has since watched some of my videos. After all it is huge marketing for him and I think he realizes that. Smart businessman.

Awsome All1song, just downloaded it, absolutely fantastic!  I've been thinking about listening to his music more recently, what better excuse can I get!
Cheers

152

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Thank you all, this thread has been a great help and I guess it would be for any beginner who wants to sing along to their playing.

As my earlier post suggested, I’ve been struggling to sing quite a few songs because I can’t quite get the key right even though the range didn’t seem too far out for me.

Initially before this post I thought a capo was simply used to transpose the key of a song to the way it is “supposed† to be played as intended by the original artist.  I didn’t realise you could manipulate the key to suit your vocal range, I had simply never thought about it,  to busy practising the guitar I suppose.

Anyway, to the point; I went through my songbook last night and just sung the first verse and chorus of each song, I noticed that all songs which started with and predominantly stay close to E, F or G (plus minors obviously), I was able to sing ok, certainly ok enough to stop the local dogs howling in return! 
However I started to struggle on songs which start with and predominantly stay around on A and C (I don’t have that many with B’s but I’d assume they’d be in there too?), so I experimented with the Capo.  What I found was songs which start with and predominantly stay around A I needed to Capo on 2, and likewise C I needed to capo on 4. 
I concluded that these chords are a little high for me, but I’d have thought I’d  need to transpose down rather than up but I guess this is where harmony between certain notes and chords come into the equation.   
The funny thing was, songs which start with D seemed ok but I did run out of time so I rushed this.  However, this fits in with Kajima when he says most D songs revert to Em and E.

Is this a normal scenario?  I guess that A, B and C chords are not too high for me but simply don’t harmonise with my “howl† correctly??  If I sing these songs without a capo, the key of my voice wanders all over the shop until I settle at a pitch that sounds like Michael Jackson with his bits in a vice??

Cheers

153

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

It’s not something I have ever thought about, when I started I just thought that I’d pick a song I like, learn the chords and words and away we go!  However in my book I have about 40-50 songs which I can play some shape, some are pretty simple with all open major chords and some are harder B’s, F’s 7’s etc.  I’ve also got a few very difficult ones which I use to practice certain chord changes.

Anyway, back on track, I find I can sing about 10 ok, about another 10 with a capo sound ok but about half are impossible for me to sing without uncontrollably changing the key throughout the song, much to the ammusement of the wife and kids!  My wife thinks I'm training to be a comedy guitarist like Les Dawson on his piano (for those of us in the uk). 

The thing is the songs I can't sing don’t sound as if they are difficult to sing and the ranges are ok but I keep drifting in and out of key on them.

But this is my point really, at which point do you have to say to yourself that no matter how many times you practice singing a particular song, your never gonna get it?  I mean with guitar playing it’s practice, practice, practice but is it the same principle with singing or are some of us doomed?

154

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Well it's good to know your all good singers, I sound like a pack of dogs howling at feeding time!

What I have found tho is that playing alot of my songs with a capo on the first or second fret (mainly first) helps alot as the key is much more sympathetic to my howling!  I find using a capo far easier than transposing the chords to a suitable key, I have enough trouble playing a regular G without changing it to a Bmaj7b....or some other dodgy chord that requires 7 fingers!

Seriously tho, do any others find using a capo for a lot of songs easier?

155

(6 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

RichardS wrote:

I am confused.  Canada has been independent from the UK for generations, but when you access Beatles stuff...it seems the Queen has retaken us?

Yip, you are still and always have been in the Commonwealth of which the Queen is still the top dog!

156

(33 replies, posted in About Chordie)

What a total muppet! 

I've also noticed a lot of songs being pulled but there are still thousands to pick from! If your after a particular song and it's not here, use another website, you don't have to be exclusive to Chordie...do you?  Personally, I copy all my song into a book as it's easier to carry that around than a computer.

Anyhow, this whole issue of copyright is like a car manufacturer pulling all repair manuals off the shelf to stop people actually making their own Ford!  Rediculous!

Keep up the good work Chordie!

TakamineEG341C wrote:
crevs.1972 wrote:

I've spent another few hours this morning practising and one thing I've noticed is that you can give the barre versions more "wwmmph"..if you know what I mean?

The sound also goes a bit "tinny" the further up I go on the acoustic but it's fine on the electic so I guess thats down to me and the acoustic not being as forgiving as the strat?

You're right that you can give the barre chords more "wwmmph". Of course, they also return to you more wwmmph because now you are utilizing six strings instead of say just four (compare the sound of F barred vs. F played open for example). So you can easily see then why the barre chords are going to have a place in your kit bag of techniques.
As for the Strat vs. acoustic there are a couple of things. First, yes, generally speaking the electric is going to be much easier to barre than the acoustic. But particularly with the acoustic it is important that it is set up properly - that your action is where it should be. Also using lighter strings can be quite helpful on the acoustic when you're practicing the barre chords. Some buddies have recommended Elixor strings to me and I haven't tried them on my own guitars yet, although I did try them on my buddy's Taylor and found them to be very smooth feeling which is good for a guy like me who doesn't play as much as I used to since I no longer perform (decided I needed a job to be able to eat and buy beers - lol). I suspect they might be a good choice for learning the barre chords as well.

I tried the Elixor strings and replaced them yesterday with Martins.  I loved the sound they gave but the coating made them feel greasy and I constantly felt like I needed to wash my hands. My fingers also slipped which isn't good.  The light Martins are a bit thicker and personally I don't think they sound as good but at least my fingers stay were I want them to!

Like you mentioned earlier, there are some brilliant comments here and I think I've sussed the reasoning behind the different chords, all I need now is to suss actually doin them!

158

(2 replies, posted in Bands and artists)

I recall seeing him on the Jules Holland show on the BBC a few weeks back, he has a new album out.  He sounded as good now as he did "back in the day"!

I've spent another few hours this morning practising and one thing I've noticed is that you can give the barre versions more "wwmmph"..if you know what I mean?

The sound also goes a bit "tinny" the further up I go on the acoustic but it's fine on the electic so I guess thats down to me and the acoustic not being as forgiving as the strat?

Brilliant, Cheers

NELA wrote:

crevs.1972, minor and "7" barre chords are very simple with the "E chord" formation. Make a E-shape barre chord on the 1st fret, this is a barre "F" chord. Now, while holding your fingers in position lift your middle finger up off of the string. This barre "F" chord is now a minor chord. For a "7" chord. same principle, hold all fingers in position for a barre "F" chord, then simply raise your pinky up off the string - you are now making a F7 chord. This holds true with all e-shaped barre chord formations across the neck.

nela

Cheers, I knew the minor one but not the 7.

Hi Topdown,

It would be great if you get get a copy on here, I now the min chords but haven't got a clue with the 7ths. 

Cheers
Crevs

I think it's swapping between the 2 will be be the problem!

Tops! Thanks for all the comments, just what I guessed really.  I have to admit, the more I practice them the better they sound although I haven't started on the A string chords yet.

165

(9 replies, posted in Acoustic)

sorry, me again, I stumbled across Creep by Radiohead last night:

http://chordie.com/chord.pere/www.linde … /creep.crd

Great for barre chords and the progression from G to B to C to Cm is pretty easy.

Fantastic song too!

I'm just a little confused!

Obviouly there's the B and F which have to be barred but why would you play for instance a barred C over an open C?

I realise you probably have more control over the sound in that you can end the ringing by simply lifting the first finger, plus they do sound better on an electric when the volume or distortion is turned up.  However on the acoustic they simply don't sound as good as the open version of the same chord?

167

(9 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Hello anastasia,

I'm at the same point as you, pretty accurate on the open chords (although could be quicker) but now looking to get the Barre chords sorted.  I can change more or less ok on the the 6th string chords and then on the 5th string chords but it's a nightmare switching between the 2.

something else I've found a great help with the usual B and F chords is look for songs with an A immediately before the B and the same with E and F, you can just slide your fingers across 2 ansd 1 frett respectively.  It help loads just getting used to barring with the first finger.
   
I've also stuck little stickers to the neck at various fretts with the notes written on, it's a big help when you can quickly see where you need to go for the next chord.

Crevs

168

(3 replies, posted in Electric)

Hello,

Just bought my first electric having only ever played an acoustic.  What sort of action should I be looking at trying to get?  On my accoustic I find 1.5mm seems to be distance I find easier to play. 

I'll generally be looking to play a bit of everything, chords, power chords and riffs.

Cheers

169

(40 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Zurf wrote:
crevs.1972 wrote:

I race bicycles, it can be really demanding, having to train the 250 - 300 miles per week on top of a job and family.

I did that in my youth, but wasn't any good at it.  You must be alot better if you've been doing it for so long.  I spent three years in vigorous training, and didn't improve my placements whatever.  It seems that everyone else's times were improving as quickly as mine.  I was certain to come in exactly middle in every race.  If there were 11, I'd place sixth, if there were 101 I'd place 50th.  I did get to meet some interesting people and lift a track bike.  Those track bikes are amazing.  My sister was a track star at her college and she introduced me to this guy.  He offered to let me ride it, but I didn't want to take the risk of messing up a bike that cost about twice my annual earnings. 

I converted my race bike to a (very, very short) touring bike and haven't looked back. 

- Zurf

I did a little on the track in my younger days before the natural speed you possess when your younger gradually left my ever slowing legs.

Looking back I've had a fair bit of success (relative of course) and I achieved everything I ever set to do, I certainly have no regrets.  It's just testiment that if you want something enough, you put the hard work in and make a few sacrifices along the way you can acheive anything!

My son plays rugby for an under 12 side in the Rhondda which is a fierce rugby hotbed here in Wales, the game here is full contact from under 9's up and believe me the boys go at it like you can only imagine.   He was lucky enough to get picked for the district aswell so alot of my time is spent driving him from training session to session to game.. i love it tho!

Zurf, I reckon I could sit and talk to you for hours!

170

(13 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Cheers for everyone's comments and advice. 

I suppose my heart will always be in acoustic music, I just love the natural, soulful sound you get, it's such a diverse instrument.  I'd pretty much rather an acoustic version of a song over any version and in my experience of listening to music (not playing), I find the songs that you'd never expect to work acoustically usually sound the best.  I just love the MTV unplugged sessions and also BBC Radio 1's Live Lounge sessions by Joe Wiley are fantastic (for everyone outside the UK or not familiar with the Live Lounge sessions, Joe Wiley invites artists into the studio and they play one of their own songs and a cover af someone elses).  If you haven't heard any of these try and get hold of one of few albums out there, they're great.

Anyway.. As well as having a love of acoustic music I grew up on my dad's music, Deep Purple, Led Zeplin, Cream and I then moved onto Iron Maiden, Metallica, Motorhead etc so I've always had an urge to crank things up a little.  So on the weekend I bought a cheap Fender and 50watt Amp and away we go!

On balance I'd still rather play the acoustic but it's great to then get up and blast off the Smoke on the Water or Whole Lotta Lovin' riffs!

Seriously tho, put on the earphones and I can bash away to my hearts content with the wife and kids watching me in shock from Sofa without hearing a thing apart from my athritic joints crumbling beneath me ;?)

171

(13 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Apologies but this isn't in the wrong section.

I've always been of the opinion that the acoustic is the perfect instrument to play as a solo instrument, whether at home in the kitchen, on stage etc.. Just about any song can sound good (apart from when I'm in control) and it appears a lot of modern chart/pop/rock music starts out as a riff played on an acoustic guitar. 

My question is, is an electric as fun and good to play as a solo instrument?  I'm only ever going to play to family and friends while they drunkly sing along so I can't decide whether it's worth me getting hold of an old electric guitar and an amp.

I know if I post this in the electric section I'll get a "Hell Yeh!" so I wanted your opinions.

172

(40 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I race bicycles, it can be really demanding, having to train the 250 - 300 miles per week on top of a job and family.  At 37 I'm just starting to struggle and I have been asking myself if it's time to hang up my wheels.  I've been racing for 15 years and before that I played rugby before an injury put an end to that!  I've never had a relaxing period in my life an I think I want one?

I'm starting to think that it's probably the guitar that has given me a new direction, either that or old age??

Interesting to see so many people into wood working, I did an old fashioned 4 year apprenticeship as a bench joiner and although the work was satisfying the money was poor and the hours long!  I re trained and I'm now a local government worker in an accounts dept, the money's good, hours short but no job satisfaction! I'd love to have a little workshop and knock out some furniture.

173

(10 replies, posted in My local band and me)

Great story mate!

174

(23 replies, posted in Acoustic)

I'm not sure if this is what you're after but it doesn't get more haunting than Clannad - Theme from Harry's Game!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5orfCHMmM8

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(34 replies, posted in Acoustic)

My grandfather is 85 and he still plays the yuke and banjo.  He's constantly spreading his fingers on his left, fret hand by ramming two fingers from his right hand between his fingers.   To look at his hands, the right fingers are all twisted and athritic but his left hand is still perfectly formed and well equiped to get into any position.