Krapyl wrote:Ahh, at last I thought! They are explaining 1-6-4-5 or 3rd- 5ths- 7ths, but NO. I can play a lot of them cause I know the chords, I have tried to see if there`s a regular pattern, in witch to play them, but can`t say I find any, exept in barre chords.
Where do you count? In pentatonic scale, i.e. A-C D-E G-A C-D F-G# A-C, will that be 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12 or
5-8 5-7 5-7 5-7 5-8 5-8 or is it in C scale C-D-E-F-G-A-B-C how can G Em C D be 1 6 4 5 then?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
This is so confusing that I don`t understand most of what they are teaching in courses, should you count in the spesific scale you are playing or what?
Also, to make a complete fool of myself Is the top line of six, always the high E string, from top E B G D A E ?
I do not expect an easy answer to this, cause I have been wondering for years!
Would also appresiate a link to somewhere they explain this in an understandable way. Hard to be a dyslectic!
Peace Ståle
It sure is confusing!
1-6-4-5 refers to the notes in the scale of the key you are playing in. It assumes you are using a standard (8 note) octave.
So to answer your question about G Em C D
In the key of G, the major scale is
GABCDEF#G numbered 12345678
1 is G
6 is Em
4 is C
5 is D
If you are playing in the key of C, you have the major scale
CDEFGABC numbered 12345678
1 is C
6 is Am
4 is F
5 is G
The C-Am-F-G is just a typical chord progression that harmonises a very large number of songs in the key of C. If the song is in G then the same progression would be G-Em-C-D.
It was a much used progression in 50s music, and still is today, I suspect.
Your question about scales other than the standard 8 note major and minor scales is more difficult. In my experience, it's possible to number the notes either way, but the most common, for me, has been to always use the 8-note system when indicating which note of the scale a chord is based on.
Even if you use a pentatonic scale for your melody, most musicians will still be thinking in terms of an 8 note scale when it comes to the harmonic structure.
So if you are using a 5-note scale, in C that goes
C-D-E-G-A-C for example, I will still be thinking that this scale only uses the notes numbered 1-2-3-5-6-8. In other words, your tune does not use notes 4 or 7 (F and B) of the scale. It also means that you might want to avoid chords with those 2 notes in, or at least chords based on those notes. However, that is a complex issue. For example, I could imagine harmonising a song using that scale above with a chord based on F (the 4th note of the C major scale) even though the melody never uses that note. For example, the notes A and C in the scale, are both contained in the chord of F major, even though F itself is not in the scale.
The decision is one for you to make. There is no "rule" as such in composition, other than "does it sound ok?". Ultimately, the ear is the judge, not the rulebook.
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