As I have said in other threads, I own a Gretsch 5120 and I do not hesitate to recommend it to other players.  It's the first decent quality guitar that I've owned, and for the price I consider it to be an excellent value.  That said, there is really no comparison between the 5120 and the "Pro" series Gretsches.  They have different wiring, different pickups, different tuners, and are built with different woods (the Pro series are a laminate of 5 very thin layers, while the electromatics are 3 thicker layers, at least on top).  Everything about them is different, and while the 5120 sounds good stock, it doesn't have "that great Gretsch sound."  As I have proven to myself, it can come VERY close with the right modifications...  If you MUST have the Gretsch sound, look for a 6118 (Anniversary) model; it'll get you there for much less coin than the rest of the Pro series.

The 5120 is also not an acoustic.  You can play it that way (and I often do, I mostly play for myself), but it doesn't have the volume or projection of even a modest acoustic.  In that vein, you might look at the Gretsch Synchromatic, which is an archtop acoustic at around the same price point as the 5120.

As Doug Smith said above, play them all if you can.  Make your decision based on sound and feel first, with the pocketbook having a simple veto.  When you find the one that's right, you'll know it.

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(2 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)

The 5120 is produced by Fender Musical Instrument Company, under contract from Gretsch.  It is NOT a copy of anything, it is a distinct model with unique features, and is currently produced in Korea (By the way, all Gretsch guitars are laminates (plywood), except for a very few which have solid spruce tops).  It is an excellent value both soundwise and fit-and-finish.  I have two, a black 5120 and a walnut 5122 (the double cut version).  Both bought from Musician's Friend, both played very well right out of the box.  Set up is easy, but if you're inexperienced, I agree with Craig23 above-- have it done by a pro.  You'll also have some sonic benefit by having them put 0.11 gauge strings on at the same time- fuller, more pleasing sound as opposed to the factory 0.10's (trade off here, as the .10's will be a bit easier to play if you're just learning).

One issue to be aware of, many players find that the stock Tune-O-Matic bridge saddles soon start to vibrate in their slots, which can cause an annoying rattle (nothing you can hear through an amp, just acoustically).  You can fix this with a small drop of clear nail polish at the screw head; quick and cheap.

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(7 replies, posted in Acoustic)

You obviously know what you need to work on.  There are no hard and fast rules as far as what to work on when; choose one or two things from your list, and spend a few minutes each day working on those things.  Every few weeks, add something else to your list.  I have found that there are more things to practice than there are hours in the day; too much to ever get bored with.

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(5 replies, posted in Electric)

Well, you can go out and buy a bazzillion single E strings, or you can address the source of the problem and not worry about it anymore (and spend less money too).  Your call.  But, if they're always breaking at the same place, take it in to a tech and explain the problem; it probably won't cost you more than a set of strings to fix.

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(12 replies, posted in Electric)

Listen to some good blues; you'll figure it out.

Update:  Gretsch 5120 (heavily modified), gretsch 5122, gretsch Pro Jet, Gretsch 6119, Taylor GA3

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(30 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Detman101 wrote:

Thank you GuitarPix, I will try that "Pressure-Focus" technique.
I tried putting tape on my pointer finger but it messes me up when i go to play extended scales with my church band during service. And my finger started going numb from lack of circulation also.
I've been to at least 8 guitar shops and everyone is stumped at why I can't get any sound out of my barre chords on the g-string.
I guess being skinny can suck after all...

Try learning slide, that's an "authentic" blues technique.

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(10 replies, posted in Acoustic)

For barre chords, first, move out of your comfort zone: if you normally practice sitting down, then stand up.

Second, don't try to use your hand as a clamp.  Very little of the pressure for the bar comes from your thumb; instead, pull into the fretboard with your upper arm.  You'll find that you need to pull with your right arm a bit as well to counterbalance.  Once you get the proper set of muscles working, you'll be amazed at how effortless it is.

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(14 replies, posted in Electric)

These books have helped me a lot:

Guitar Basics by Bruce Buckingham http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Basics-Ess … amp;sr=8-2

and Fretboard Logic by Bill Edwards http://www.amazon.com/Fretboard-Logic-S … amp;sr=8-1

Have fun, and good luck!

I just saw this thread over on gretschpages.com, that addresses this question:  http://gretschpages.com/forum/electroma … 514/page1/

Many of the folks over on gretschpages.com have played both; and while the 5120 is by no means in the class of the "pro-series" models, most profess to be impressed with the quality and sound of the 5120, particularly at its price point.  The stock humbuckers on the 5120 are darker and not as Gretsch-y sounding as the filtertrons that come on the 6120, and the 5120 is a slightly heavier 5-ply laminate whereas the pro series are a lighter 3-ply.  I'm sure there are other construction differences, but those are the biggies.

It is pretty simple, and not too terribly expensive, to make a "budget 6120" out of the 5120, I've done it to mine with a custom pickguard and jackplate, rocking bar bridge, grover locking tuners and TV Jones pickups.  My total investment is around $1100 including the guitar, parts and labor; half of what you would pay here in the States for a Pro-series.  I haven't had the opportunity to do a side-by-side sound comparison, but I think mine sounds awfully good.

Another Gretsch 5120 owner here.  Save up and get the Gretsch, you will not regret it.  You might even be able to find one on eBay in your ballpark.  In addition to sounding good, looking good and playing easily right out of the box, they are a wonderful platform if you're into modding.

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(1 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)

Well, if you're not made of money, then a Gretsch amp is pretty much out of the question.  wink  If you ever get a chance to play through a Variety, do it!  Then lament the fact that you can't afford the thing.

Seriously, just about any tube amp will do, I'm very fond of my Fender Blues Jr.  I also like the sound of the Hot Rod Deluxe, and many Gretsch players like the Fender Blues Deluxe and the Deluxe Reverb Re-Issue.  You're looking for lots of clean headroom for that twangy "Great Gretsch Sound" but that touch of tube breakup when your amp is working hard is kinda like the sound of angels.

One word of caution regarding the 5120, but look carefully at the back of the guitar before you buy.  There was apparently a batch of too-long sound posts in some made last year, which caused hairline cracks in the center of the back.  I haven't heard of any problems with the 2008 models (stock with the silver pickguard), but exercise a little caution with anything having a clear pickguard and/or a KS07 serial number.

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(77 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

My first was a loaner, an ancient DanElectro solid body with no amplifier, since my step father refused to allow a guitar in the house that could be heard outside the room I was in.  I learned all the open chords and a bit of finger picking on that guitar.

My current most played, and arguably "the one I learned on" is a Gretsch 5120 I bought last year.  I've played this guitar more in the last year than I did all others put together in the last 33.

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(16 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Plus, in my experience, chicks really REALLY dig guys in kilts.  big_smile

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(16 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Another important question and answer:  What is the difference between a 'skirt' and a 'kilt'?

If the guy wearing it looks like he'll kick your @$$ if you call it a skirt, then it's a kilt.

I have hiked (backpacked, really) in my Utilikilt, and i found it to be very practical.

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(16 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

My own answer to the question, "what are you wearing under that kilt?" is very simple: "Lipstick."

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(52 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

"And I pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday,
and I get on my knees and pray...
we don't get fooled again.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
-- Pete Townsend

I have three (3) Gretsch Electromatic guitars, a 5120 (black, heavily modified), a 5122 (walnut, replaced bridge with a Rocking Bar Bridge), and a 5296T Pro Jet (stock); all are excellent instruments right out of the box.  The only issue that many owners have with these guitars is that the stock humbuckers don't sound "Gretschy" enough, they sound midway between a Gretsch and something like a Gibson P90, so many folks replace them with TV Jones pickups.  Everyone I've corresponded with who owns one of these guitars agrees that they are quality instruments, that the fit and finish are excellent, that they sound great and look fabulous; but they are a modder's dream come true.  If you live anywhere near a dealer, I highly recommend going in and playing one, you won't regret it.  Just be ready to start wanting one REALLY bad...

Another trick is to learn to do the A major using just your ring finger, with a bit of a 'backwards' bend at the last joint.  Slide that up two frets, and add the bar with the index finger.  Note that on any of the barre chords done in this manner, it's okay to mute the high e string, though for good technique's sake you should probably try not to.

There is no comparison between ANY Epiphone guitar and a Gretsch White Falcon.  I personally feel that there is no practical comparison between any pro-line Gretsch (any model starting with a 61xx) and any other semi-hollow guitar, period.  It's very nearly comparing apples to oranges, the differences are that pronounced.

That said, any hollow bodied guitar is most likely not going to give you the sort of heavily distorted sound that is associated with contemporary Metal music.  There might be someone out there doing it, but I don't know who that might be; that person is proving the old adage that the sound is in the heart and the fingers.  Doesn't change the fact that it's easier for most people to get bluesy/jazzy/surf/rockabilly out of a hollow body than it is to get Metal.

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(4 replies, posted in Electric)

Doug is on the right track, it sounds to be either the selector switch, or a bad ground connection from the pickup.  It's time to get out the multimeter, or take it to a tech.

In order to improve your picking speed and accuracy, you have to start by going slow.  And by slow, I mean mind-numbingly, stupidly slowly.  The goal here is to teach your picking hand and fingers where the strings are, and how to skip between them without having to look.  So if you don't have a metronome, get one.  A cheap tape recorder helps too.  Set your metronome to 40 bpm, and start doing down-picks on the sixth string, one per beat--don't bother to fret any notes.  Tap your foot to the beat.  After 16 beats, move to the 5th string (still just down picks); 16 more and move to the fifth, and so on.  When you get to the sixth string, go back up.  Then, do the same with just up picks.  After that, do it with alternate picking.  As you get to the point where you don't fumble the string changes and don't make any mistakes, gradually increase the metronome's beat rate.

If you record yourself, and spend 15-20 minutes a day on this, you will be able to hear massive improvements.  The good news is, that as you get faster and more accurate, getting even faster gets easier.  Once you get to 100 bpm, go back to 60 and do eighth notes (two per beat) and keep going from there.  When you get back to 100 bpm with eighths, go back to 60 and do sixteenths.

Very soon, you will be so bored with this you will think about giving up.  When you get to that point, combine it with your scale exercises-- that is, instead of not fretting any notes, start playing  your pentatonic scales (or whatever you're working on) in the same way, at whatever bpm you've worked yourself up to.  You will find yourself improving by leaps and bounds.

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(3 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)

I use a plastic container for Q-tips, in which I drilled a few holes and filled with a damp sponge.  Put that in the lidded compartment in your case, and check to make sure it's still damp every few days.  Or, you could get one of these:  http://www.zzounds.com/item--PTWGH

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(2 replies, posted in Acoustic)

The original recording of "Tea for the Tillerman" is done on piano.  Mostly single notes with a few chords thrown in, it would probably sound best on guitar fingerpicked with the occasional clawhammer chord thrown in in place of the piano chords.

If you have iTunes, go to the iTunes Store and give it a listen.  The song is short enough that the whole thing is on the sample.  smile

Good luck.  If you figure it out, post back here; I'd like to see how you do it.