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<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>jerome.oneil wrote on Mon, 09 April 2007 18:27</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">
Two identically branded guitars may have completely different sounds. You should find a shop that sets up it's guitars correctly, and play a bunch until you find one you like.
Then buy it.
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I couldn't agree more. Some stores will try to fob you off with expensive guitars that are not set up correctly. Go to as many stores as possible and try as many guitars as possible.
I recently bought a Yamaha AXP500 and love it. Only cost me £199(UK). Plays very well(even for me).
Take your time.
Al
Nae bother, Craig,
I got it in Merchant City Music in Garth Street in Glasgow. After the huge disapointment of the big stores this shop was a treat. All the guys were very helpful and seemed to know every guitar on the wall personally. I asked who's job it was to tune them and clean them and was told it was down to them all. They all know what they're doing and every guitar was spotless and well set up.
As you can see I liked this wee shop a lot. Their website is at <a href="http://www.guitar.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.guitar.co.uk</a>
I have to admit to being a bit barre chord shy. So I decided it's time to face the fear.
A fantastic song for practicing barres and building up strength is "Whistle for the Choir" by The Fratellis.
It's all E,G,G#m,F#m,B.
Still not perfect but this song will sort me out in time.
Here we go............... <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_twisted.gif" border=0 alt="Twisted Evil">
Hey Moddish,
I know exactly what you are going through. I spent ages mulling over what to get. Played a Tanglewood in McCormacks in Glasgow and wasn't impressed one bit.
As I've said on another thread, I was horrified at the difference between individual guitars. Played three identical Yamahas in GuitarGuitar and they all sounded completely different. Thay all sounded terrible. However, just round the corner in Merchant City Music I played 2 identical Yamahas and they both sounded fantastic.
I guess what I'm saying is go to a shop you know you can trust for selling quality, properly set up guitars - where the staff know what they are on about. I found the three big stores in Glasgow were very poor on service and knowledge and more expensive.
I ended up buying a Yamaha APX500 Electro-acoustic. Cost me £199. Because it is electro-acoustic the body is smaller than what I was used to and therefore a bit quieter. Also a nice easy action.
Sorry if I've gone on a bit but as I say I was shocked at how the bigger stores sell badly set up guitars to unsuspecting buyers(mainly parents who are not fully clued up).
I also realise that this hasn't helped you one little bit. Try as many guitars in your price range as possible, in as many shops as possible. If you have that little voice in the back of your head saying, "I'm no really happy wi that but it's lovely guitar aw the same", don't buy it! If it has the slightest buzz or the action is not exactly what you want then don't buy it. £500 is a lot of money. Get your £500 worth.
Good luck.
Al
Good luck to the two of you. Throw in some Bob Dylan and you can't fail.
I always remember Pete Townsend saying that he could play most of his repatoir when he was 16. If you're good enough you're old enough!
I'm a few months off 40. Still play like a duffer but love every minute.
Mike Peters(The Alarm)
His accoustic style is fairly simple but very very effective.
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Just cos they work in a shop doesn't much of anything!! I have a Tanglewood and I love it. nice clear sharp sound mmmmmmm!
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Sounds just as good right here right now.
What I mean is that the smaller stores take a lot more interest in the product they are selling.
Made me buy it!
just bought a Yamaha APX500. Fantastic guitar for the money. Barre chords no longer a problem and sounds fantastic.
A lot of guitar for your
I am from a place called Kilbarchan, which is about 15 miles west of Glasgow, Scotland. I'll be 40 this year and picked up my guitar about a year ago after a lay off of around 15 years. Still learning all the time and love every minute. I may not be very good but it's good for a sing-a-long with family and friends with a good bottle of single malt whisky.
A faithful follower of The Saint Mirren Football Club.(that's soccer to the uneducated)
COME ON THE SAINTS!
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OK guys. The shopping aroung has been done and I now have myself a new Yamaha APX500 Electro Acoustic. Absolutely delighted with it. Sounds great, plays great. Better on both counts than my old Fender. Couldn't be happier! <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_biggrin.gif" border=0 alt="Very Happy">
I have to say I was shocked at the difference in individual guitars. And from store to store. I tried 3 identical guitars in one of the major retailers and was horrified at how badly they sounded and played. Walked round the corner and played exactly the same guitar and it was amazing.
More power to the small shops!
As loud as possible. <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_redface.gif" border=0 alt="Embarassed">
I have to agree on the amp thing. Get a half decent one and hear the difference. I have to admit to prefering acoustic but my nephew has an electric and every time I'm round there I have a go. Great fun. Yes it's slightly different in technique but the range of sounds is great fun.
Still nice to get back to my old Fender acoustic though.
Jeezoh!
Now I can see where the fascination lies!!!! <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif" border=0 alt="Shocked">
Just to clear up the linguistic problem:
"wee swatch" - to have a short look at; to check out
"utter pants" - absolute garbage; pure rubbish; not very good.
Ken and I both come from the west of Scotland so we had a bit of an advantage on you guys.
Awright Big Man gonny geeza wee swatch et yer guitar er byraway?
Sorry! We live in our own little world and everyone else is wrong. <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_lol.gif" border=0 alt="Laughing">
Hey Ken,
I was in Glasgow and decided to have a wee swatch. Biggars was utter pants. McCormacks was where I had a go but they don't really have a big range. Wife says she'll take me to guitar guitar this weekend. I like the look of a Yamaha APX500 Electro Acoustic. Just over the 200 quid.
Worth a look,eh?
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Thanks for the encouragement guys.
More guitar hunting this weekend!!!!!!!!!
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James,
Where do you find that stuff??
A never ending mind pit of STUFF!
Bloody amazing. <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile">
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Hey I just made Senior Member!
There can be nothing more embarrassing than a 40 year old man trying out a guitar in a store. Especially when said 40 year old is as bad a guitarist as me.
But I finally overcame my fear of guitar shops and took the plunge. OK so the place was pretty quiet but I did it. This has been a phobia of mine for many years - playing in front of snotty nosed youths who look down their snotty noses at you.
I've been looking for a new guitar in the £200 range. Not a lot when it come to guitars. Played a Deacon (naff) and a Tanglewood (bit better) but still never found anything that jumped out at me.
Now I've stared my fear in the face who knows where it will end......................
Keep going man! <img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_eek.gif" border=0 alt="Shocked">
Your problem is you are giving your fingers the chance to recover and soften again. Play through the pain at the start - it'll be worth it. I no longer have sore fingers and mine were in tatters when I started.
Keep going man!!
I thought that was Cadd9.
All I can think of is Csus2
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How are you playing it just now? I returned to the guitar about a year ago after a 12 or so year lay off. I played electric mostly then and found B pretty easy barring with my index finger and barring the B,G and D strings with my ring finger. However that is easier on an electric and since my return I have moved to acoustic and find that method a lot harder. I now play it still barring with my index but using a different finger on each of the B, G and D while muting the low E with the end of my index. Sounds more complicated than it is.
Practice playing an open A chord using your 2nd, 3rd and 4th fingers. Then when you are comfortable with that slide it up and throw on the barre and hey presto.
You'll get there in the end.
I know a few people who are paying around £10 for 1 hour. Seems pretty much the going rate around here (Glasgow/Paisley area). Don't know how much these things vary from region to region.
Surely if you two are to play his material together then first of all you have to be able to play something you both know first. Playing songs you both enjoy together will help you both with timing. Once you have mastered a few then maybe try some new stuff.
It may be easier for your brother to make up his own stuff because he struggles keeping in time or remembering chord progressions. All it takes is a bit of practice and you two could be doing something special. There's nothing quite like learning an instrument and then hearing something you know and love come out of it at your own fingertips. Yeah, being creative is great but one step at a time.
I hope this helps and I've not upset anyone.
Cheers,
Al
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