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For 90% of us, running in-line works great.
However, if you like to hit your tubes hard on the front end for some gritty overdrive (active pickups, for example), and send the amp a modulated signal (like the top row of pedals in the diagram), the modulation also becomes distorted and weird sounding. We mic'd my brother's drum kit this way once, and got some crazy (and kinda cool) sounds out of it.
Thanks for that TF, I'd forgotten about Wishbone Ash, I have the Argus album on vinyl in my attic. Reminds me of the bassist in one of my bands years ago who loved them and actually sounded like them singing and every song he wrote...you get my meaning?
The less I'm doing the less time I seem to have...how does that work? When I get the time and hwyl I'll give it a try.
Awesome band, Phill ... and they're still touring. Argus was a good album, as were Pilgrimage, There's the Rub, and Wishbone Four. My favorite of their's was New England. At the end of side 2, the music gradually fades until there's a good 2 minutes with just some crickets singing in the background. Without warning, a loud lion roar with no reverb ends it. Of course, we'd sit someone stoned & skittish near a speaker when it was playing, and watch them freak out when the lion roared. Good times ... 
Thanks everyone!
I've never been a very good spectator, but prefer to be involved ... so I post a lot. Chordie has been such a helpful resource, and y'all (as Bill would say) are awesome folk to converse with. Dunno if I'll get my own nickname someday, but for now TF works just fine. Somewhere inside, there is still that kid with the new purple shoes, who wants to drive his neighbors crazy by playing his music too loud (the song "Tenement Funster" by Queen).
Hey Beamer ...
Here's a link to some info where we yakked about Effects Loops here a while back:
http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=30740
With a multi-board like your RP500, you're probably best off running it direct (guitar >>> RP500 >>> amp). For people building boards of individual effects boxes, gain effects (dist, O/D, etc.) usually work best in-line, while modulation effects (phase, flange, delay, etc.) will work better in the Effects Loop. Ultimately, you can experiment with both, as I did with my Boss ME80. I found that running it direct, as Phill suggests, made the most sense.
As you already hinted at, you may not even need your Tube Screamer once it's set up. Here's a terrific diagram I found helpful:
Hey Beamer ...
Here's a link to some info where we yakked about Effects Loops here a while back:
http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=30740
With a multi-board like your RP500, you're probably best off running it direct (guitar >>> RP500 >>> amp). For people building boards of individual effects boxes, gain effects (dist, O/D, etc.) usually work best in-line, while modulation effects (phase, flange, delay, etc.) will work better in the Effects Loop. Ultimately, you can experiment with both, as I did with my Boss ME80. I found that running it direct, as Phill suggests, made the most sense.
As you already hinted at, you may not even need your Tube Screamer once it's set up.
I hear ya loud and clear about the look, feel, and sound of a cool head sitting on top of a 4 x 12 slant-back cab. I have a Traynor YCS50 combo, but would much prefer to have the head version, sitting on a top of a 4 x 12. A great feature of the Traynor YCS (Custom Special) series is the USA / BRIT switch. It changes the placement of the tone stack in relation to the gain stage. The USA mode gives a crisp, detailed sound (think Fender, PRS) while the BRIT mode gives a grittier, aggressive tone (think Marshall, Vox).
This is my dream rig:
Herr Loremaster ... you've done it again. I'd never seen that poem by Mr. Kipling, but it's a real beauty!
Bill .... the fact that you're asking this question tells me you'll do the right thing. Mighty considerate of you, my friend!
Been watching my "number of posts" counter recently, as this milestone has approached. I thought I might say something eloquent to commemorate the event, but what I really want to say is a big "Thank-you!"
I joined Chordie a little over 5 years ago, and this has become one of the highlights of each day. All of you have answered questions, shared your individual expertise, encouraged, provided advice / feedback, and been that "panel of expert consultants" that anyone learning anything can grow with.
The paramount element of Chordie is the courteous and positive culture which each of you contribute to. Chordians come from all over the planet, like different music styles, and are at varying skill levels. Yet no one is ever made to feel unwelcome or put down. Whatever Per and our Mods have done to build this culture deserves a huge round of applause ... I'm proud and grateful to be a Chordian.
Rick "Tenement Funster" Morse
I've got lots of bad playing habits, as I only had a chord chart to learn from, and no one to show me anything.
The biggest one is not using the correct fingers when playing scales in the various positions. I sometimes get tied up, with a needed finger being "boxed out" (in basketball terms), or a traffic jam of fingers in another progression. I've finally got some help on how to do it right, but decades-old habits are amazingly resilient.
My only consideration of using colored strings (that's "coloured" here in Canada ) was to put DR Black Beauties on my black Les Paul. I just thought they would look cool. I asked a guy I know well at the local music store about this. He just asked me one question" "How are you going to see them?" I've tried playing in dim light before, and apart from basics it wasn't easy. That ended the consideration, and I haven't looked back.
My youngest son also has a few lines that make me grin:
1) An annoying person: "He has a very punchable face."
2) A clueless person: "Even if you didn't explain anything to him, he still wouldn't get it."
3) About "All Star" games: "They're just ways for leagues to get money from non sports fans."
.... tried sprinkling Holy Water on it, but that just made it steam (it does have one of those Intel "ovens" inside).
Teeheehee ... hilarious, Doug. But why not try it? The Russians do!
Good gravy, Jandle ... that's a really solid cover! Guitar playing doesn't sound dusty at all, and your voice is first rate.
King Crimson "Level Five" Japan, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKka6sSCs0
KC's 2003 double disk DVD "Eyes Wide Open" was compiled of tour footage throughout Japan. This song features intricate guitar duo work between Adran Belew and Robert Fripp, backed by the amazing drumming of Pat Mastelotto, and the touch guitar bass arrangements of Trey Gunn. It's a bit unique in that it has a "level five" intensity, but never really becomes a song as such. Nevertheless, the musicianship is exciting to watch / listen to.
Don Ross "Cup of Pop" (original)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeKdexYfPCk
A few summers ago, we had friends from Philadelphia visiting, and had a BBQ supper on the deck one evening. My pal asked me to pour him a "glass of soda", and we started chuckling about how we use different terms for things. The title of this song is what us Canucks would ask for.
It's only happened to me once, and local tech wiz was able to access the hard drive and move everything onto a thumb ... whew! Once they reach 5 years old, it's time to start planning a new purchase to avoid the inevitable headaches.
That is absolutely amazing, CTECH ... this deserves a place amongst some of the best songs there are about human conflict.
However it's phrased, war seems to always be started by some monster wanting to impose his will on another people, and to take their stuff in the process. The rest of us can then either (a) let the monster do it, or (b) defend those who can't defend themselves.
How do we answer that? It's something I constantly wrestle with. The first step is to be on guard that I don't become the monster.
Powerful lyrics, TIG ... really pokes at the apathy / complacency we all wallow in at times. It reminded me somewhat of a song by Wishbone Ash from the early 70's called "Throw Down the Sword", which is the style I imagine it being played.
So good to hear to from you, Amy ... glad that you, MKD, and all your MK's are well. Looking forward to seeing your NGD pic.
A real nice acoustic jazz-box, JJJ ... congratulations! I'll bet it sounds beautiful. Epiphone MasterBuilts are extremely well made, all-solid-wood construction, and priced reasonably due to off-shore labor costs.
You've had great success with the Bugera's over the years, Beamer, so "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." If you put either of those on a 4 x 12" cab with decent speakers, you'll be ready for everything.
Nice riff, Beamer ... it also reminds me a bit of Heart's "Barracuda". The effects you're using (phase/flange, distortion) are perfectly suited to the riff.
Those last two are solid gold ... great laughs. My late Dad had a few to illustrate how he felt about someone or something:
1) Two good friends: "Closer than bark to a tree."
2) A stupid person: "He's got delusions of adequacy."
3) A chewy steak: "Tougher than a boiled owl."
4) An immature person: "I wonder what he'll be when he grows up?"
5) A lazy person: "Not enough ambition to fart downwind from himself."
You really nailed the soulful sound of that one, Russell ... thanks for posting. I couldn't help but notice that the ol' arthritis is starting to hit your hands, too ... no more 32nd note shredding for us older guys, eh?
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