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It's not cheating. It's knowing your way around your fret board.
Jazz players will have learnt the E. Em, E7th. min7th, maj7th, e.t.c but think of it as a starting point for a progression. A I,IV,V (1 4 5 ) Could be E A B. Slide up to your 3rd fret it becomes G C D. but it is still a 1,4,5 progression.
Play an F and slide it up to the 7th fret. just play 4 strings or 5 if you play the 3rd fret on the 3rd string.
This is usually my first port of call when looking for a song. If I can't find it here, or I want a different version. I'll have a look at E Chords. They've changed their layout lately. Not for the better, but there are quite a few useful recources on there.
The search and layout on this site(Chordie) is better than anything else I've found.
Normally for me any chord is really easy, including the barre chords, but the chords that really give me a pain in the neck are the movable chords (used mostly for jazz) On chord in particular is th Gm11 movable chord:
e--x--
B--1--
G--3--
D--3--
A--x--
E--3--Its might not seem difficult, but there are alot more of those!!!
Have a look at this lesson from Justin guitars. He describes this shape as Min 7th/b5th.
Take your time and learn these few chords. Save the link and keep coming back to it. I found this lesson very useful.
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/JA-001-J … Chords.php
Iron Finger wrote:Normally for me any chord is really easy, including the barre chords, but the chords that really give me a pain in the neck are the movable chords (used mostly for jazz) On chord in particular is th Gm11 movable chord:
e--x--
B--1--
G--3--
D--3--
A--x--
E--3--Its might not seem difficult, but there are alot more of those!!!
Lets see if one of the Theory Gurus will shoot me down over this comment. To me this chord does not make sense for two reasons.
1/ Expecting one to strum and not play the A string but play the E and the D is asking the impossible.
2/ With this particular chord the B is played on the first fret making a C so why not play the A on the 3rd fret (like its surrounding strings) to play a C.
Of course there is a lot easier Gm11 to play, and that is 333333.
Roger
That is actually a nice chord, but don't strum it. Use your thumb for the E string and your fingers for the other 3. Also use your thumb to fret the E string, it helps to mute the A string. If you slide your thumb down one fret to the 2nd fret. you get a nice F#maj 7th.
Oh, that's not an easy one. Steve Howe uses C & G bar chords. I find the G a bit of a stretch myself. That C to Am is a good change to practice. In the first position, I would stick with 1st 3 fingers for the C and Am, 3.2,4 for the G. It makes for a far quicker change and your fingers fall into place for the next chord. But practice both ways.
"All useless information since knowing this doesn't make barre chords any easier to play."
Yes but, "Bar" does what it says on the tin.
Thanks for the info.
I'm with the Americans on this one. Why complicate spelling?
I didn't ask "what is a barre chord"
I was asking about the word "barre"
The Bbm may be more difficult than say a Cm or a G because it is so close to the nut. You may have the same problem with F. An alternatave Bm can be played by baring the Em shape at the 6th fret.
I do know that I spell Bar / Barre the wrong way, but what the heck? I just think of my index finger as a bar. What is a barre?
Do you use your pinky more when forming a G chord? It means your index finger is un-uesed, leaving it an easy change to the C chord. It also strengthens your pinky and makes it fell more natural to use it for the Am and E bar chords.
Don't stop the way you are already playing Am because that's an easy change from C, practice it both ways.
If you can find the Chords for Samba Patti. It's a good progression to practice this.
Play G as a bar chord. So you are baring an E chord. Then Bm, (Baring an Am) Em to Am. The last Am will be played with your first 3 fingers but when you play the Bm and the G you are Baring with your index and forming the chord with the other 3.
It's a great progression to learn. It turns up all ofer the place.
I recon, the best thing to do with a strat is to fit an extra spring to pull the bridge real tight and remove the tremlo altogether.
Have a look on eBay. Be patient and you'l get a bargain.
As long as you don't go overboard. you won't do much damage whilst adjusting the truss rod. Just rmember to losen your strings give it half or a quarter of a turn at a time. I think this is less drastic than filing the saddle down. You can always lossen off the truss rod if you've made it too low. You can't stick the filings back on the saddle.
It's not too difficult and you'll learn a lot along the way. If you are able to adjust your truss rod yourself, you can experiment with different guages of strings.
If your thunb is behind the neck, it allows you to put more pressure on thestrings with your fingers. Particularly if you are making a ber chord. If you are using your thumb for the low E string and muting the A string, you don't need it to reinforce your grip for the bar chord.
Use both methods because they both have their uses and it's good to have a bag full of tricks.
I'm a relativley new convert to the use of the thumb. I think it's too useful not to use. Ipicked it up after waching a lesson on www.Justinguitars.com What a great resource that is.
Learn a song. Then practise it. Learn a scale, then practice it. When you know the song and the scale learn another one. But keep practicing the first song. Keep the songs simple.
You can do a lot worse than work your way through The Oasis song book. Great sounding songs but quite easy to play. You'll find chord progressions will become familliar.
Try practising bar chords further up the scale. An A or a G chord will be easier to hold down than the F because they are further away from the nut.
christopaul thats my take on it as well to get myself a nice 6 string as well, but i think i will need your help on that one...
could u persuade the wife that thats the way to go??!!?
PLEASE
We could organise a petition?
Buy a six string. Promise to sell the 12 string. Never get around to selling it. It works for me.
I started playing a six string acoustic years ago. I got side tracked by a 12 string and then a bass. I do think I would have improved much more than I have, had I stuck to 6 strings for a lot longer to begin with.
Myself, I'd keep the 12 string but try and get hold of a nice 6 string as well. If your guitar is easy to play, you will learn a lot quicker.
Go into aguitar shop with helpful staff. Try an electro acoustic with a relativley shallow body, then a concert acoustic, a Drednought and maybe a good parlour guitar if you can find one. You will then see what the differece is.
Sounds like gyn-boy could do with spending a bit of time with an allen key and a small hex screw driver. the guitar should have been better set up than that when you bought it, but tha said, It's not rocket science, setting up a guitar. Oh and trya new battery in the tuner.
Piano a superior instrumet to a guitar. Go wash your mouth out with soap and don't come back until you have understood the error of your ways. 
Jimi Hendrix used it a lot. If it were good enough for him?
Using your thumb on the E string and muting the A string with the thumb is a usful trick to learn. Try the same trick but form a Am on BG and D strings. play only those four strings. It gives you a nice major 7th.
Try a D shape with your thumb on the F# . It gives a nice run down from G, D Em.
There are lots of ways to play most chords. Try them for a while before you dismiss them.
3x0033 also gives you G. A nice alternitave when picking.
If you want a hollow sound, make sure you get a guitar which is hollow. The 335 is semi hollow. It looks like a semi but plays more like a Les Paul. the 330 or ES175 etc are hollow. Look at the brige. If there is a tail piece, then the guitar will be hollow. If not there will be a sound block inside.
Ibanez are making some lovely hollow bodies at the moment.
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