726

(53 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Life's Been Good by Joe Walsh- 'My maserati goes 185..."

Rock-n-Roll Heart by Eric Clapton-  " I get off on 57 Chevys......."

She's Somethin' Else by Eddie Cochrane- "got a 41 ford......"

Cars by Gary Numan

Copperhead Road by Steve Earle- "Granddaddy ran whiskey in a big black Dodge...."

Paradise by The Dashboard Light by Meatloaf

My Hometown by Bruce Springstreen- "I'd sit on his lap, in that big ole' Buick......."

Highway Patrolman by Bruce Springsteen-"Seen a Buick with Ohio plates..."

Rev It Up and Go Go by Jesse James Dupree- (songs begins with hot rod motor car sounds)

Well Ok then Jerome,

      I can read standard notation and did so for several years as a classical guitar student. And why I'm defending my credentials to YOU, I have no earthly idea, but here goes anyhoo. I guess when a non-professional  insults and questions a professional, a response is warranted. Truth be told I find it much easier to teach a beginner/intermediate student with tab and chord charts. Also ,rhythym and tempo can be described and/or notated in precise detail using  tab. Tab is only as good and useful as the person writing it. There are many variations in writing tab and it is more times than not an individual's signature.

    There, I answered your question, now you answer mine. How many gigs do play and how many people have you taught to play guitar ? Very curious to know.

    You really don't have to answer, and I'm not trying to 'one-up' you. My intent is to show that are different methods  to approach learning and 'your-way' isn't the standard by which all others should heed. One needs to find what works best for themself and go with that. I tried both( standard notation and tabs/chord charts) and the ladder works best for me and those I teach. You'll  get what I'm sayin' after you have a few more years  of guitar playin' under your belt.(possibly, or........)

Oh yeah, and you also ask, "How do expect to listen to a song that isn't recorded anywhere?"  I'll have the person who wrote it play it for me. I'll record it, learn it, write it out, and play/teach it. And if the person isn't around to play said song, I'll work it out from standard notation, it just takes me a bit longer that way..........

I Wish You a Pleasant Evening,
Toney

728

(77 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Her's some useful info on mandolin vs. fiddle, regarding standard tuning;

http://www.users.waitrose.com/~john.bal … uning.html

http://www.folkofthewood.com/page367.htm

They are tuned the same, standard. Variations can, an often are used though.

729

(9 replies, posted in Recording)

One of my most recent experiences in a "professional studio" was one of the most rewarding and educating times of my life. My hard rock/grunge/ metal/funkish/jam group ( Modulus) recorded an all original CD titled "Unlive". (Labrynth Studios, Clearwater, FL)

        The drummer(Eric) and I are full-time working musicians, but the bass player (the Chris) and other guitarist (Jayson)had 'real' jobs. Eric and I nailed our parts first takes everytime( well Eric did on 100% of the songs, I had to 1 do-over because I got distracted staring at my wifes' breast area), but the Chris and Jayson weren't as rehearsed and Eric and I. They took quite a bit more time (than Eric and I) but we finished the entire 8 song CD in 45 hours total recording/mixing/editing time.

        In addition, I had to go back and add main track doubling, 2nd and 3rd part harmony vocals on a few of songs. That was a bit time consuming but the end product was well worth the extra time . Our engineer (David)was awesome, he catered to our every artistic wish without indifference or judgement. The entire band was  pleased with the end result and very proud of our CD. We just wanted to have something for ourselves, family, and friends that just rocked to the max! We got our wish. One of these days, when I learn more about these new dummy boxes(computers), I'll try to download the CD like Russell, James, and Roger(and all of  you other 'smart' people) do.

     Finally,  I absolutely love being in the recording studio. All of  you folks have to try it at least once! I'm serious... Home recording is a nice way to get your musical ideas on tape/CD/MIDI file/MP 9's ? whatever, but there's no substitute for the 'real thing'. One of my long-term goals as a musician is to  be a full-time studio musician. But not right now, the gigs are too much fun these days to give 'em up completely.

Peace and Guitars,
SouthPaw41L

jerome.oneil wrote:

Well, Mozart, Beethoven, Paganinni, etc... seemed to do pretty well expressing their art using standard notation, so I can only assume you have either very limited musical experience (probably self taught?), or don't read it.   I'm going to guess a little bit of both.

Standard notation provides you the tools necessary to describe inflection, tempo change, volume, and every other aspect of song that you might care to know about.  It's the medium that artists use to express music.  Your feelings on the matter don't change that.

If you want to call playing music professionally for 25 years and supporting my family by doing so, then I guess my musical experiences are "limited". I played 375 gigs last year, taugh 26 students how to play guitar. After a few lessons on general instrument knowledge and notes and chords, I make an asessment of my students level and ask them which songs they'd like to play. If the song is comprable to the students level, I learn the song and teach it to the student. Works very well for student and instructor. That's my "limited experience"! How many gigs did you play and many students paid you to teach them how to play guitar? Just curious........

I don't know if you noticed or not but Chordie is a guitar tab, guitar chord and lyrics site.(just read the logo) Tabs and chords are much more effective, practical, and applicable than standard notation for the beginning/intermediate guitarist. And I can't say for sure but I'd venture a guess that the beginning/intermediate guitarists make up the vast majority of members here on Chordie.

Refrain from attempting to insult  me as a musician, you're way out of line in doing so.

I Hope You Have a Wonderful Day,
SouthPaw41L

731

(4 replies, posted in Bands and artists)

Click on the 2nd you-tube video and decide for yourself.

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/videog … nt-so-joe/

jerome.oneil wrote:

I agree, to a degree.

Rhythm and such is best expressed in standard notation, which is a sometimes complicated beast.   Tab and chord charts are notoriously bad at expressing that kind of stuff.  There is no easy way to express it except in standard notation, and creating legible standard notation for display on the websites is really tough.

Does anyone know of a way to do that?

Uh yeah, listen to the song you wish to learn( many, many times, without exterior interruptions) and work it out, the best you can. Or create a feel for a song you wish to create, the best you can create. No musician can become great and achieve "it" from reading some scribble scrabble that someone way beyond their level transcribes. A scientific approach to an art form is gonna sound robotic and absent of passion. Put your hours in and make it hurt.............

Accousticguitar <33 wrote:

Hi, I wondered if someone could help me find some easy tablature? I don't know what i should look for so I wondered if someone could help me:) I (off course) play acoustic guitar and was thinking 'bout some blues or something?
Anyone who would like to help me out? I'd be grateful!!!:)

                                                      Rock on as always!

Here are some nifty litle helper outers;

http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/?url= … ranspose=0

734

(20 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Sirius satellite/internet radio is where it's at. It costs $12 a month but it's well worth it. You get Howard Stern and Bubba The Love Sponge in the morning and evening, respectively.(talk/comedy/pop culture/politics) And the music channels have just about any kind of music you could ever want, with almost NO COMMERCIALS, or annoying, overbearing DJ's talking over the music !!!!!
You get talk when and where you want, and music of any style whenever you want.

735

(86 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Classically trained by Craig Sams.(1986)private lessons@ Harvard on the hill. ( NRCC)

I knew how to play piano, Mr. Sams asked me to show him my most impressive piece of music. I played the outro to 'Layla',mixed with the intro to 'Fur Elise', with a tad of 'The Munsters' mixed in, and we began from there.(that was the one and only time I ever made Mr. Sams smile) I have a quote from Mr. Sams taped upon the wall in my music room. It reads, "practice the fundamentals over and over, until the fundamentals become instinctive."

I learned from  Mr. Sams for one full year and he moved on to bigger and better things elsewhere.(???) I have no idea where he went  but I am forever grateful to him for getting me started and headed in the proper direction. We covered a lot of ground in very short period of time. I hope to cross paths with him someday in the future.

Thank you Mr. Sams

736

(8 replies, posted in Bands and artists)

Over processed, too many layers. I'm not fellin' any emotion or passion or love of music in this release. The once hungry Axle Rose is todays' version of the 'fat, success has spoiled me , Las Vegas Elvis'. I guess what i'm trying to say in a round about way is this; (in my insignificant opinion)Success went to his head and he forgot what enabled him to become the 'rock idol' he once was. Besides all that, there are fake drums( drum machines) in many parts of the several of the songs..........(fingernails screeching down a chalkboard!!!!!!) Maybe he'll do better in another 20 years and 30 million dollars(+/-) later.

737

(6 replies, posted in Electric)

06sc500 wrote:

I don't know anything about correct techniques when it comes to picking.  I downpick and am learning how to alternate pick and tremolo pick.  But what it sweep picking and how do you do it?

All right, load up on the caffeine and hang on tight!!!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC9BP5qnWtI



Have fun;>]

738

(10 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Superstitions are a bunch of unscientific, unproven myths created to generate money for their creators and/or inflict fear amongst the gullible, much like many other 'trends' large masses of humans use to guide the way they live their lives. It's utter nonsense, in my humble opinion....................But hey !, to each their own.........

Peace and Guitars,
SouthPaw41L

739

(4 replies, posted in Songwriting)

buvvy wrote:

These words came to mind after hearing on the radio that 90% of the indiginous Red Indians were wiped out by European introduced diseases.  I might be stepping on many toes here but the following also applies to Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Hawaii and any other place that was colonised i.e. invaded.

THE LOST NATION

Feathered head
Painted face
Dark red man
You had better know your place
Once you owned all of this land
Now its mine
To churn and behold
To mine and ruin
At the behest of your soul
Golden eagle
Spirit of the red man
Mighty buffalo
Furry food, spititual friend
No more to be seen
On the great open plains
Coyote and wolf
Brothers in arms
Friend of the red man
enemy of none
Spiritual companion
Friend until death
Farewell my brother
Your coat is no more
It adorns the walls and floors
Of a great big man
Who has no brains
Only a gun, bullets and might
Of how his actions
Removed you from sight.

As you see there are no chords so you all have carte blanche.  I would do it in a bluesy Little Red Rooster vibe.  Whoever comes up with the best rendition will get the Far Out Award.

buvvy,
give this site a gander;

http://www.poemhunter.com/poems/

It's a great site for aspiring poets.

740

(2 replies, posted in Songwriting)

Roger Guppy wrote:

Hi Buvvy,

Nice words again but you will have to get some chords/music to them to make them into songs.

Roger

I echo Rogers' sentiment. Why bother posting incomplete work? You can merge with other Chordians to co-write if you so desire. There are tons of poetry sites out there in computer land. The songwriting section here on Chordie is intended for songs, not poems........ Nice poems nontheless.

741

(8 replies, posted in Songwriting)

http://www.chordie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1957

FYI, this is how 'completed' works are posted. Just thought I'd include this fine, helpful link(sticky).

742

(12 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I like that song 'Under The Milky Way' by " The CHURCH".

The Church are an Australian rock band formed in Sydney in 1980. Initially associated with New Wave and the neo-psychedelic sound of the mid 1980s, their music later became more reminiscent of "prog rock", featuring long instrumental jams and complex guitar interplay.

The Church's debut album, Of Skins and Heart (1981), earned them their first radio hit "The Unguarded Moment". They were signed to major labels in Australia, Europe and the U.S. However, the U.S. label was dissatisfied with their second album and dropped the band without releasing the album.

Good band!

"Music is my religion."-James Marshall Hendrix

743

(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

tubatooter1940 wrote:

When setting up for a gig, I always take my guitar out of it's case and set it on it's stand before I do anything else so the guitar can have max time to adjust to room temperature.
  .

This is about the best advice a person can give in cold weather playing. Good stuff tubatooter1940. Also, be advised that heat from ones body temperature will affect the guitar(acoustic) as well. Layers of clothing helps to reduce adverse effects of bodyheat on acoustic guitar but be careful the buttons and zippers  don't scratch the finish on yer' instrument...........

744

(9 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

We must really be open minded when answering this question. If one is auditioning for Juliard, M.I.T., or Berkley,(or equivalent) and one is given a specific piece of music to learn, one better best learn the music to the 'T'(exactly as written and played). If one is auditioning for a job with a tribute band who makes their money by sounding "just like the record", one better learn the parts 'just like the record'.( or source given to learn)

   On the other hand now, if one is playing simply to satisfy themself and/or immediate family members, and/or friends, the "I'm gonna play it my way and to hail with what traditionalists' think" mindset is perfectly O.K.

   Me personally, I fall a little bit in the middle of this mix. I  like for the people listening to what I'm playing be able to recognize the piece without me having to tell them after the fact. And at the same time, I'm not going to be overly consumed by playing every note exactly the same as the original recording of what I'm playing..............unless I'm playing originals, then all bets are off. If I make a mistake the first time around, I play it the same way  the second time around.............

Peace and Guitars,
SouthPaw41L

745

(10 replies, posted in Electric)

Bubble wrap the entire instrument and consider boxing the box, with bubble wrap inbetween the boxes. You'll have a customer for life and word will get out about your great care for 'sacred 'musical instruments.  It costs a little bit more but it's worth it. That's how I do it.....

746

(7 replies, posted in Acoustic)

resprod wrote:

Okay, I have only be playing chords up to now and have now started to work with TABs.  However, unlike chords, how do you know what fingers to use where?  Is there a set system or pattern or is it really just feel?

The more you dab in the tab, the better you'll know which fingers to use at maximum efficiency. Just think of playing guitar as you would in shooting pool(billiards). You want to give some thought into what  your doing presently, but also you'll want to think of what you'll be doing next. I know this may sound a bit wacky at first ,but just give it a go and I'm pretty sure you'll find this simple advice beneficial...........

This one falls under the funny category, and it's by Jimmy Buffett.

tah dah.... it's titled " My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, and I Don't Love Jesus".

This one's a crowd pleaser most of the time. ( although, there's sometimes  "that person" who just don't get it and thinks I'm the anti-christ for singing such a song. )hahahaha

And there's a song titled " Is Somebody Carryin' A Bag of 3 Day Old  Road Kill or Did My Ex-Wife Just Yawn?" I can't remember who wrote that one?????hehe

748

(6 replies, posted in Electric)

It's actually called 'artificial harmonics' and DrewDuncan gave a nice discription of the technique.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Harmonics

749

(44 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Thanks badeye, Jeff, Wayne P , & Kenny. I was sweatin' it  for a while there!

Peace and Guitars,
SouthPaw41L(Toney)

ps- I'm on your side(friends) Old Doll and always wishing the best for you.......Ciao Bella

750

(44 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Just finished booking 205 gigs for the upcoming year(2009) with 2 resorts.


This is much needed in light of several  local resorts/bars/restaurants either going out of business or eliminating entertainment. The important thing is to take the bad news politely and don't ever burn your bridges......... I've learned this lesson the hard way!!!........Many working musicians differ with me here but if someone pays you money for a service rendered, you work for them....I've also learned this lesson the hard way!!!......