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(179 replies, posted in Recording)

Russell_Harding wrote:

Great looking guitar there stonebridge single cutaway the tuning heads look like they could also use nylon strings do you live anywhere near Phill Williams? smile

Thanks Russell.
Phill lives not far away - I'm not sure which town he lives in but from what he has said in his posts it must be somewhere about 30 miles west of here.
I'm sure you could fit nylon strings. The reason I bought this was for the wider neck. It's just under 2 inches and suits my playing better. I find the narrower necks difficult for my rather large fingers.
I have a nylon string classical that I play a lot but I wanted a steel string with a similar feel. This one is just the ticket!

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(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Thanks guys. I've uploaded a picture of me with my new guitar in the PICTURES OF MEMBERS thread in the Recording section.
I've been playing it every day since I bought it and practicing a tune I usually play on another guitar. I hope to record this tune and upload it so you can hear how she sounds in the next couple of days.

Here's me in the garden posing with the guitar rather than playing it!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/DrNebula/chordie3.jpg

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(179 replies, posted in Recording)

Here's one of me in the garden playing my new Ozark "Hot Club" acoustic. It's the one I mentioned in the other thread in the "Acoustic" section about wider neck guitars.
I'll upload a sound file so you can hear what she sounds like. It's taken me a while to sort out a decent mic and to practice something to play. It takes a while to get used to the feel of a new guitar and play a piece you've got used to playing on a different guitar. Should be ready in a few days.
We've had some warm sunny days here in Wales just lately. This after a really wet and miserable summer.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/DrNebula/chordie-1.jpg

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(2 replies, posted in Song requests)

It's "Gold" by John Stewart

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(7 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

If you follow the link given by arkady, you will see that music GCSE is a lot more than playing an instrument. You have to know theory, history, and be able to compose. Performance is 40% of the total mark. This is made up of half each of an individual performance and a group performance.
Some years ago it was possible to put forward your own grade 5 in an instrument as part of the assessment, but that is no longer possible.
The specification says that 3 marks (out of the 30 given for performance) are awarded for complexity of performance if that is equivalent to grade 5, 2 marks for grade 4, and 1 mark for grade 2 or 3.
So if your playing is not very good, you will lose some marks. What is interesting is that your performance can also be technology based.

My advice is to speak to a music teacher at the school, find out what syllabus they are doing and ask about the performance element and what your chances are, based on what you can already do.

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(14 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

You can get straight to the forum by typing www.chordie.com/forum in the address bar. It works for me anyway.

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(2 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Yes it looks like standard tuning BUT it also sounds like he has tuned all strings down two half tones. The result is it plays in Bb rather than C.

Look after yourself, Zurf. It happened to me too but I was not so lucky. It was my heart. That was 7 years ago and, fortunately, I've made full recovery.
Keep eating the garlic as as Restless Spirit says (but keep away from Mrs Zurf for while after!)
Also, eat lots of fish oil and drink plenty of green (China) tea.
It works wonders for me.
The fish oil is good for the joints too. Get them fingers working on the B-cord - no trouble.

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(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Well, thanks to those who replied.
Lylenbev.
That looks like a nice one. The trouble is getting hold of one to try out. They are not available in my local store.
I have a 12-string, steve, but couldn't bring myself to remove half of the strings. smile

So I thought I'd go down to the store and see what 6-strings they have with a wider neck. As dfoskey said, it's important that it suits your fingers. I find that the sort of picking I'm doing, which is a sort of mix between classical, ragtime and who knows what else, needs a neck somewhere nearer the width of a classical, but with all the qualities of a steel string.

Tanglewood has a wide neck range but the store didn't have any of those in stock, just the standard models.
Some Seagull guitars have a wider neck but they don't stock them.

So it came down to a choice between 2 models.
The K Yairi guitar was excellent but way out of my price range if I wanted to stay on good terms with Mrs Stonebridge!!
The other guitar was an Ozark "Hot Club" - quite an unusual looking instrument

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g220/DrNebula/3513x.jpg

After playing it for a while I decided it was the right one.
The neck is much wider - nearly 2 inches - but the body is a little smaller.
I'm not intending to learn to to play Jazz like Django, but the feel and sound of this one suits what I want.
The look is unusual with the D hole.
Solid spruce top and a reasonable price.

So there's the end of the story.
Thanks to those who replied.

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(11 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Typing spaces will never work, but using tabs "should". Computers being what they are will usually mean that something somewhere isn't right, though.
The problem is that nearly all the fonts used are so called "proportional". This means that the characters don't have a fixed width. A "l" is narrower than a "W".
If you use the font Courier New, it will often do the trick. It is a very old fashioned looking font, but if you can put up with that, give it a try. It works because it is a mono spaced font where all the characters are the same width.

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(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

It's been a year since my other half kindly bought me a new 6 string when I said I wanted to start playing again after more than 20 years. I also have a nylon string classical which I have been playing more and more. (I learned on one originally back in the 70s)
I've developed well with both guitars, but find I'm using the classical for most of the finger picking, and the steel string for the strumming. I've always found steel strings, with the narrower neck, a bit cramped for my large fingers when it comes to picking.

I've decided to get another 6 string but with a wider neck and greater string spacing.

Now here's the problem. I've done a bit of Googling and found some possible contenders. I don't want to spend a lot.
My current 6 string is 1 and 13/16 inches (4.5cm) width at the neck. The classical is, of course, the standard 2"

Could any of you here tell me about your experiences with wider necks and any recommendations you may have.
I look forward to your replies.

Chris

Has anyone ever heard you play? Do you have a friend who also plays or who can sing or play some other instrument?
The post above is right. You will get bored with songs if you don't have a goal or reason for learning them.
Ask yourself the question "why am I actually learning/playing this song?". Honestly. Why? Is it just to amuse yourself? Is it just because it's fun messing about on the guitar?
If you have a problem sticking with a song, the best way to get motivated is to set yourself the task of singing it for someone. Anyone. Anywhere. It doesn't matter.
You can do this by collaborating with some other musician(s) or by singing for a friend or family - or in public.
I must admit that I have always considered music a social thing that is best enjoyed with like minded people. They will act as a catalyst and get you motivated. Unless you are strong willed and/or self motivated, making music on your own can be unproductive
Good luck.

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(9 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Yes, that web site has a load of stuff on the mathematics of scales, pitch and frequency too. Theres also a bit on tone woods.
It's great if you really want to get into the technical side of things. Not for the faint hearted though! wink

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(9 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

KajiMa wrote:

I was thinking Pythagoras meself while I was reading the first post, Stonebridge and indeed, you are right that Pythagoras was the first to link Maths and Music (recorded, at any rate.) He was the one who found that if you had a weight hanging from a string, if you halved the distance of tension, you ended up with the same note an octave higher (12th fret to open string) and if you doubled the weight but kept the length the same, you have the same increase in octave (increasing tension = tuning an octave higher than concert pitch, but I will not be held accountable for broken strings if you wish to try THIS!).

You'll certainly break a few strings there Kajima! wink You need to increase the tension by 4 times to get the octave.

http://www.noyceguitars.com/Technotes/Articles/T3.html

It's heavy going reading the link, by the way.

I'm not surprised the Fibonacci series might be linked somewhere because it seems to pop up in a number of interesting places.

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(9 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

gitaardocphil wrote:

There seems to be a relation and a theory, (Fibonacci theory, I believe) used in music.
Did :
1) math ---> music or
2) music --> math?

I think it was Pythagoras, not Fibonacci.
I think Pythagoras once said that music should be studied through numbers and the mind, rather than through the heart. I can't say there would be many who would agree with that.
As for 1) or 2) I would say it is neither. Or both!
Both maths and music have existed side by side and are related.
I agree with what Zurf says.
Music can be analysed through maths and be found to depend on ratios.
More specifically, the intervals we tend to find pleasing have simple ratios between their frequencies.
The musical scales seem to have evolved from this same idea.

Why, for example, do we find that singing in octaves sounds "right"? Is it just a coincidence that the notes have a frequency ratio of exactly 2 to 1?
In the big scheme of things does it really matter? Either way, it is fascinating.

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(4 replies, posted in Poems)

Thanks Phill
I don't normally write poems or lyrics, I stick to the tunes and music.
This is probably the only "poem" I've ever sat down and written with the intention of it being just that. A poem, rather than a song.
It was written about 10 years ago when I met "Judith". I found it in a text file on my old computer and thought I would share it.
Judith and I are still together. smile

PS. It probably could be made into a nice love song, but I'm too close to the words to do it. Whenever I try to think about a tune, all I hear is tunes I already know from other, famous, love songs. It's really strange.
I'll leave it to someone else to set. All welcome...

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(4 replies, posted in Poems)

If love is a gift, I thank you for giving
If love is a vision, it's you that I see
If love is a flower, come walk in my garden
If love is a song, come sing it with me.

If love is a road, let's walk it together
If love is a river, I drown in its flow
If love is a feeling, I know that I love you
If love is a thought, you're all that I know.



To Judith

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(1 replies, posted in Song requests)

A quick search found this (you need to scroll down the page a bit to find it)
http://www.thetabworld.com/Chris_Isaak_ … chord.html

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(1 replies, posted in About Chordie)

I've replied to this in the Song Request section.

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(2 replies, posted in Song requests)

Hi docmartin.
I don't know this song but I found it on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaxtY_mt-0
This is the botsweeds' version.
It's a very complicated chord progression so I had to listen a few times to get it right. I'm not surprised you are having problems getting it to sound right. The recording starts in C minor and I can give you the chords in C minor, but I'm guessing they play this starting in A minor with the capo on the 3rd fret. I'll give you both versions anyway.
The C minor version uses chords such as Db min and Gb which can also be played as C#min and F# respectively.
I can't post the lyrics on here because of copyright so I'll just give the 1st word of the lines so that you can see how the chords fit.
Each chord is one beat and further beats are indicated by /

Intro
Cm/////

If you...
Cm/// Ab/// G7///

Pussycat...
Fm/ Dbm/ Gb/// Dbm///

It's that she...
Ebm/ Ab/

What's...
Ebm/ Fm/

She's...
Bb/ Eb/

Child...
Gm/ C/ Cm/

In her life...
Cm     Gm Cm Gm Ab/// G7///

Pussycat
Fm/ Dbm/ Gb/// Dbm /

Gb/ Dbm/
Gb/ Dbm/
Gb/ Dbm/
Gb/ Dbm/   to end


In A minor the chords are as follows
Intro Am/////

Am/// F/// E7///
Dm/ Bbm/ Eb/// Bbm///
Cm/ F/
Cm/ Dm/
G/ C/
Em/ A/ Am/

Am Em Am Em F/// E7///
Dm/ Bbm/ Eb/// Bbm/
Eb/ Bbm/
Eb/ Bbm/
Eb/ Bbm/  to end

It's a strange song as it starts in one key and finishes in another!
As I say it's a very tricky song.
If there's still a problem, let me know.
I'm 99% certain of the chords but you never know.

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(1 replies, posted in Song requests)

Hi Thomas.
The version I listened to on YouTube has a piano accompaniment as is in the key of C.
There are only 3 chords. C, F and G. (with a C7 at the end of each verse leading into the chorus.)
The structure of the verse is
Intro
C F C F
1st verse
C F G C
C F G C
C F G C
C F G C C7
Chorus
F G C
F G C
F G C
F G C
Bridge to 2nd verse
F C G
2nd verse and chorus
Same as 1st
Reat the last line of the chorus at the end.

If the key doesn't suit (Denver had an excellent tenor voice but too high for many to sing!)
try it in G
Just substitute
G for C
C for F
D for G
and G7 for C7

Hope this helps.

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(9 replies, posted in Recording)

Mikeshead
What you do depends a lot on what equipment/fx you have available, what recording equipment you use, and what instruments you are recording. I could only answer for my own setup. There is nothing "wrong" with putting reverb on individual instruments.
My comment about different "rooms" was just my own preference for when building up a recording on a multitracker.
If you have no effects then recording a track the bathroom is a way to get reverb if you are using a mic to record acoustic instruments or voice. Once recorded, the reverb is always there and can never be removed. Moving the mike nearer or further from the source will reduce/increase the amount of reverb recorded. In this case, the reverb is put on each track. It's not really practical to try to put reverb on the whole final mix in the bathroom.
If you have sufficient effects (reverb and delay/echo) and the recording equipment to do it, I always recommend these FX are placed on afterwards and the sound is recorded initially "dry". (Or as dry as possible within the room you have).
As to what effect to use on what... I agree with the other guys really. Listen to what you think sounds right.
There are some general guidelines. I always say that it's probably better to use a little less than too much. It's very easy to get carried away and overdo the effect. You don't want your recording to be swimming in reverb and echo.
The voice always sounds better with some echo or delay added (in addition to the reverb).
In general, instruments like flutes and violins when playing a melody will benefit from some echo or delay.
As I said in my other post, you need to be careful when putting echo/delay (and in some cases reverb) on rhythmical instruments or tracks.
This is because the delayed sound interacts with the original.
I personally never put echo/delay on a bass guitar, for example, and usually only a little reverb if it seems to need it. The reverb or echo from a bass track can easily swamp the whole mix if you are not careful.
I had a look on the web for sites to explain the delay time and beats per second issue. They all go on about mathematical equations and generally make it even more complicated.
What it boils down to is that the listener will hear a beat, say a snare, twice a second, shall we say. (This is 120 beats per minute, 2 beats per second)
If you put a delay/echo on that, the listener will also hear the echo just after the original sound. How long after depends on the delay time. You need to make sure that the delay time is such that the echo comes before the next beat.
In my example, the echo must come in less than half a second. Most delay/echo units have an adjustment to do this. Just turn it down untill you hear the echo clearly coming in before the next beat. Exactly where the echo happens is up to you. What sounds right.
Reverb is different. The reverb time is a measure of how the reverb sound "decays". In a large hall or cave the reverb lasts a long time before it slowly dies away. In a smaller room the reverb dies away more quickly. Reverb is made up of multiple echoes.
Of course, in a bathroom (not usually very large) the reverb dies down more slowly because the smooth walls create multiple echoes.
Increasing the decay time on a reverb, puts the sound in a larger space.
Increasing the "amount" of reverb (compared to the volume of the original sound) places the sound further back in the mix. It's like moving the mike away from the instrument you are recording and picking up less of the original instrument, and more of the sound from the environment.
I'll stop here because this is starting to sound like a tutorial!
I hope it has been of some help. Remember, use your ears to judge the final sound. But don't overdo the effects!

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(22 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

KajiMa wrote:

Sorry to get on my soapbox, but I'm going to anyway.

At the start of the Millennium, we had a huge poll in the UK - "Music of the Millennium." Just about everything was from the last 15 - 25 years.

1000 years to choose from and people voted for stuff that was effectively today and yesterday.

Where was Mozart?

When I said I preferred the 60s 70s and 80s I forgot to mention I meant the 1760s 1770s and 1780s. smile

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(7 replies, posted in Music theory)

SouthPaw41L wrote:

Hello again John,

Here's another fantasic link that clearly demonstrates the circle of fifths wizzardry........

http://www.guitarlessonworld.com/lessons/lesson18.htm

Peace and Guitars,
SouthPaw41L

Just a word of warning here. The link above has a number of errors in it. In the diagram at the bottom of the page the chords above the guitar tabs have the following errors
the B maj chord, 3rd note from top shows Eb. It should be D#
the F# maj chord shows a Bb at the top. This should be A#
the C# maj chord shows F (natural) It should be E#
the G# maj chord shows Eb. It should be D#.
These are enharmonic errors. The note would sound the same when played on the guitar or piano. However, the notation is incorrect.
This problem relates directly to the other thread in this section asking about E# and B#, and my reply to the poster, and canudigit's reply to my reply.

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(22 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I love music from the 60s 70s and 80s. The 90s and 00s do very little for me apart from one or two songs from here and there. Pop music died in 1989. wink
I play mostly acoustic and "folk".