6,901

(23 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Randy Travis - Forever and Ever Amen

6,902

(39 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Well I've been trying to figure out how to sing with Frank Sinatra's voice, but so far it sounds more like Stomper the tone-deaf moose. 

- Big D

6,903

(50 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

upyerkilt wrote:

another style of music I dont care for much but I really appreciate the way it is done is Indian music, the kind ye hear in indian films and when yer sitting in an indian restaraunt. Although when ye sit in an indian restaraunt it just is not the same if you hear anythin other than indian music.



Ken

I actually moved out of an apartment because the woman who moved in upstairs from us played Indian music loudly.  Everyone played music loudly there, so loud music wasn't a problem.  Now, the person who lived there prior to this woman had a boyfriend in the merchant marines, and when he came in from the sea he "came in from the sea".  We got loud music at all hours to play over the other noises.  But she had good taste in music (or at least similar to mine) and we were newlyweds or close enough to count anyway and so would just join in as long as there was good music playing.  James Taylor, America, etc. 

But when the Indian woman moved in and had similar habits, well it's just not the same trying to get things going with all those cymbals and crazy partial-tones.  I guess I've just got ears that are too Western to appreciate that music.  So, we weren't having fun and we weren't sleeping.  So we moved. 

- Zurf

6,904

(41 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Q: How can you tell the stage is set up level?
A: The drool comes out of both sides of the drummer's mouth.



Q: What do you call a bass player without a girlfriend?
A: Homeless.


- Zurf

6,905

(3 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Pick a song he knows and has simple open chords (or can be transposed to them).  Show him the chords.  Let him practice getting the chords out without buzzes and muffled strings and transitioning between them.  That's enough for a couple of weeks practice at least.  You'll think of the next step by then.

- Zurf

6,906

(50 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I am also not a fan of the vocal gymnastics.  If anyone is interested in amazing vocal gymnastics that don't suck, go old school with Mahalia Jackson.  A four octave range any note of which is available to her after any preceeding note.  Classically trained and simply amazing.  And yet, while I appreciate her talent and skill, I don't enjoy the musical genre. 

Boy bands.  None of them have entertained me.  Just don't care for the style.  Again, I do appreciate the skill in harmonizing well.

Lots and lots and lots of hair bands, or the style of stadium rock in general.  Poison, Ratt, Guns n Roses, etc.  Not saying it's bad, just saying it's not to my taste. 

Talking country.  Freddy Fender did some songs like that.  They all did some like that back in the day, so I probably shouldn't pick on Mr. Fender.  I like country, but not the talking country of yesteryear.  Makes me want to puke.  "And darling, I just need you to know..."  BLAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Punk.  With due apologies to our esteemed moderator, his kilt, and whatever is up it, but I don't care for punk one whit. 

I'm pretty much a blues, country, classic rock, and alternative rock (for which I am still trying to figure out what is alternative about them, same four chords, same progressions).   Plus I love '60's Soul!  It's tough to beat Wicked Wilson Pickett, Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding, Ray Charles.  That genre and era was awesome.  Good tunes, simple instrumentation, lyrics about stuff I can understand.  Mostly.  More or less.  Well, I'm still not sure how to dust a broom, but I understand where he's coming from on "Sittin' On The Dock of the Bay."  I use that one as a lullaby.  My daughter at 4, who has shown an aptitude for picking up lyrics and melody, learned it from me singing it to her at night.  I didn't realize she was memorizing the songs, but I went back to check on her in the shower once and here's this little blond 4-year-old who's never known hunger or worried for a place to sleep belting out "I've got nothing to live for, ain't nothing going to come my way..."  Hilarious.   I guess you had to be there.  Don't nobody start lining up to watch my daughter in the shower! 

- Big D

6,907

(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Thanks to all for your help, and especially to Jerome for taking the time to type up such a thorough answer!

I do keep the guitar on a stand by my desk and play it a little at a time throughout the day, plus usually play for 1/2 hour to hour each night.  However, I have gotten to the point where I recognize the need for some discipline on putting theory into practice.  I'm certain that your exercise above will be well used as both picking practice and scale practice. 

- Big D

I got to hear that in relation to my own playing last night.  That was cool.  It was my bass playing instead of my guitar playing (no one will confuse me for a competent guitar player).  And it wasn't true because I made a LOT of mistakes.  But the band that I was sitting in with had some fun.  Their drummer and rhythm guitar player have a pretty good ear for each other, so it was a piece of cake working into that good rhythm section.  The band's usual bass player is an exceptionally talented young fellow (about 17).  When I sit in with them, I take back seat to this kid because he is just so good I don't want to step on his toes.  But last night he wasn't there, so I got to play the way I play and they liked it.  At the end, the band leader/front singer said, "D, you totally rock dude."  Nice to hear, regardless of knowing different.  Real nice.  May even get some stage time when the regular guy isn't available. 

- Zurf

6,909

(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Jerome,

One the scales, do you follow a particular regemin?  Do you work through chord patterns in a scale, go in order, do a pattern that has you get through the scale in every possible order?  Any books or site resources that may be useful for arpeggio and scale exercises? 

I will likely have no more than fifteen minutes a day or so to practice scales and such and still work on the songs I want to do to keep it fun.  However, fifteen minutes of concentrated efforts will probably make a big difference.  It'll be slower than an hour a day, but I'm not in a race.  Thanks for the advice. 



James,

Thanks.  I have been undisciplined in my approach to practice.  I'll need to add some discipline.  I like your idea of having small daily goals and will surely do that. 

- Zurf

6,910

(8 replies, posted in Acoustic)

How do y'all go about your practicing?

Me, I just sort of launch into strumming some songs.  Now, I know that a routine is far better for getting progress quickly, but I also want this to be fun and not work.  How do you folks keep it fun while improving your skills?

- Zurf

6,911

(14 replies, posted in Acoustic)

If you think a song doesn't translate directly to acoustic, then translate it indirectly!

As an example, when Clapton took Layla to acoustic on the Unplugged album, he changed the feel and presentation of the song.  I do this all the time, but for very different reasons than Clapton.  Clapton does it because he's extremely talented and capable in many styles.  I do it because I suck and can't get the licks to come out right. 

- Zurf

6,912

(32 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

I love Country music.  I grew up listening to Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Crystal Gayle, Statler Brothers (who my Gram used to baby sit in the summers and my mom used to run around in the woods with), Chet Atkins, Loretta Lynn, Patsy Cline (has there ever been anyone better?).  The list could go on and on.

Some of the songs I'm trying (can't say I play them yet)
Johnny Cash - Big River, Wreck of the Old 97, A Boy Named Sue, Cry Cry Cry, Unchained
Willie Nelson - My Heroes have Always Been Cowboys, Bloody Mary Morning,  and
Jimmy Buffett - Bama Breeze, Tin Cup Chalice,
Steve Goodman - City of New Orleans
Loudoun Wainwright III - Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road
Emmylou Harris - Defying Gravity
Mary Chapin Carpenter - Down at the Twist and Shout
Randy Travis - Forever and Ever Amen
Billy Jo Shaver - Georgia on a Fast Train

There's more.  You get the idea.  I've been particularly enjoying the Willie Nelson and Jimmy Buffett songs, though even Jimmy Buffett isn't sure whether his music is Country.

Once you get out west the Mason-Dixon line doesn't apply.  Then it relates more to who fought for the North and who fought for the South.  Or, whether their grandparents called it the Civil War or the War of Northern Aggression. 

Me, I come from Appalachia and speak a pretty darn good hillbilly, which doesn't change much on your relation to the Mason-Dixon Line. 

The biggest change in the North vs. South thing is food.  My uncle and father (Pennsylvanians) were taking me to college in Virginia.  We stopped for the night near the border of West Virginia and Virginia down below Pittsburgh.  In the morning, we drove a little and got into Virginia where we stopped at a Waffle House for breakfast.  The waitress brought grits for each of us.  My uncle says, "I don't want grits."  The waitress asked, "So then why did you order breakfast?"  She left the grits.  I ate them.  Although I've lived in Virginia for 24 of my 41 years, I am still a Damn Yankee.  The difference between a Damn Yankee and a Yankee is that a Yankee is someone from the North and a Damn Yankee is someone from the North who stays. 

- Zurf

6,914

(5 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Like Jerome.Oneil says:
Slaves did a lot of it.  They brought their rhythms with them and from those grew field songs and spirituals.  I've heard it said that some of the spirituals and field songs were really directions to get to the Underground Railroad.  If the field hands were singing "Jimmy Crack Corn" it meant that the overseer wasn't around and it was safe for the runaways to cut through the field of corn. Interestingly, quilt patterns were used for much the same purpose depending on how they were hung to dry and such.  From spirituals and field songs grew blues and Gospel.  Country and rock are just different forms of blues.  They all use the same chord progressions and a pentatonic scale.  Country uses the major pentatonic scale, while blues flattens the thirds and sevenths and rock sometimes flattens thirds and sevenths and sometimes doesn't depending on the song. 

Take the slave traditions and add in the French and Spanish influences down in the Gulf states and you get Zydeco.   

Jazz and Dixieland, I don't know where that came from. 

Bluegrass is a direct descendent of Scottish Highland jigs and reels.  Listen to bluegrass, Cape Breton, and Highland music together.  They'd fit quite nicely into the same concert. 

Corrections requested.  This is all just bits and pieces remembered through the fog of pre-coffee morning. 

- Zurf

6,915

(8 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Abbey Road
Abbey Road
and Abbey Road

The bass line on Oh! Darling alone is enough to put it as their best album. 

- Big D

6,916

(19 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Momentary Lapse of Reason
Animals
Wish You Were Here

Almost went with Etc_04's exact list, but then I remembered the Momentary Lapse of Reason album.  Probably the last album I bought before going digital. 

- Big D

Martin. 
For Eastern brands, Takemine has some models that I like.  They are surely a good value.  I have two Yamaha guitars and like them.  At the low end perhaps Yamaha has an edge and at the higher end Takemine.  But once you get to higher end, you may as well go to Martin.  In the middle range ($400 to $1000 US) then it's a toss up.  There are a lot of good brands, Seagull, Taylor, Martin, Breedlove, Takemine, Yamaha, etc., and so forth. 

- Zurf

6,918

(5 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

Sorry.  I have little respect for the man as lyricist, as poet, as musician, or as a human being.  To me, he was a flash in the pan.  He got high, lost control of his senses and waggled his thang at an audience, then ran away from the repurcussions of his actions.  After running away, he drank himself to death.  There's little for me to respect in that story.  I sympathize with him, but as far as I'm concerned, The Doors is all about Ray Mizerak's brilliance as a musician.  Any pretty boy could have played the part of the drunk would-be poet at the front.  It was Ray Mizerak's arrangements and skill that carried the band to stardom, and his humility that Ray Mizerak himself deflects all complements to Jim Morrison.  That's something I can respect. 

- Zurf

6,919

(7 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

All above good.  Some I would repeat, but there's no sense in that.  I'll toss out a couple more for consideration.

Big Legs, Tight Skirt - John Lee Hooker
Just a Little Bit - Magic Sam
Sweet Home Chicago - everybody
Too Hot to Handle - everybody, but I really enjoyed the Black Crows cover

- Zurf

6,920

(7 replies, posted in Acoustic)

May I suggest not worrying about the "best" way to progress and just worry about "whether" you are progressing?  The best can frequently be the enemy of the merely useful.  It is far more important to progress than it is to progress optimally. 

As far as lessons, I'm quite convinced that there is no best.  There is only best FOR SOME and then only at certain times in their lives and only if the purposes coincide.  What works for me may not work for you, and so on.  That doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss what works and doesn't, but it does mean that if you read something is the "best" and doesn't work for you that you shouldn't let that frustrate you. 

- Zurf

Well thanks folks.  You've made me feel somewhat better.  I will keep not doing covers like covers, but I'm still thinking learning what a rest is for wouldn't hurt me any.  I don't recall who it was, but it was one of those mega-star '60s jazz musicians - "Learning when NOT to play says a lot more than what you DO play."  Something like that.  Terrible mis-quote I'm sure but the base concept is in it. 

- Zurf

6,922

(34 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)

acmecorp wrote:

Blimey, he's dead is he?

I could have sworn I saw him at the bus stop last wednesday ...

That was probably Keith Richards.  He's only been dead five or six years, but it seems no one has informed him yet. 

- Zurf

6,923

(11 replies, posted in Acoustic)

There was an album named Neck & Neck that was a collaboration between Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler.  One of the songs on it is "There'll Be Some Changes Made" in which Chet Atkins threatens to go pop and "start wearing makeup like Jackson and Prince..."   Anyway, the two of them go back and forth trying to show off to one another in the song.  Chet Atkins has some classic stage talk.  After Mark Knopfler more or less starts the duel, Chet Atkins says, "You've played before."  Just after blazing through some amazing work of his own, he says, "I learned this is summer Bible school."  The final solo is Mark Knopfler's during which Chet Atkins says "Don't make me look bad.  Respect for your elders," and "You're pretty good but you're no Mark Knopfler."  I recommend the album in general, and for extremely good solos that song in particular.   

For those who've heard Boots Randolph's "Yakkety Sax" cover - perhaps while watching the chase scenes of Benny Hill - you can get to hear a cover of the tune by the composer for the instrument it was intended, "Yakkety Ax".  The lyrics show Chet Atkins humble and humorous side, "I'm confessin' I never took a lesson.  All my notes are just a matter of guessin', hopin' they'll come out in a way that'll make that yakkety sound.  If your hands start clappin' and toes start tappin' I'll have done what I wanted to from way just a-playin' my yakkety ax." 

- Zurf

6,924

(2 replies, posted in Acoustic)

Taylor Big Baby is on my short list. 

- Zurf

I don't do covers EXACTLY like covers (meaning, really pretty much nothing like the covers - example: I was thinking last night that Take Me Home Country Roads could work pretty well as a reggae song).  Anyway, when I get to having fun and jamming with myself, my patterns get WAAAAAYYYY too busy.

Anybody work through this?  How?  Advice appreciated.   Is it just a phase?  Or is it because I've always been a rhythm guy with the bass? 

Thanks.

- Zurf