If so, I need it.
x24242 ($#@%& &$%#$ #&%$@ barre chord)
x21202 (my pinky won't cooperate)
Seriously . . . anybody using a shortcut or a fake they'd like to share?
Thanks.
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If so, I need it.
x24242 ($#@%& &$%#$ #&%$@ barre chord)
x21202 (my pinky won't cooperate)
Seriously . . . anybody using a shortcut or a fake they'd like to share?
Thanks.
The structure of the arpeggios immediatly brought to mind "House of the Rising Sun", but after looking closer (and playing it) I realized it's definitely not that.
Sorry, I got nothin'.
Got it. Thanks to both of you for the education. It was very . . . well, educational.
Thanks guys. I think I understand.
However, Jerome, I'm hoping you made a typo, otherwise you're going to have to explain a bit further:
>>"2 (and 4) are usually tied in with "sus" or "suspended" chords. That is, you substitute the 2 for the 3, or the 2 for the 4. As such, you need to stay within the octave."<<
Did you mean to say: "you substitute the 2 for the 3, or the 4 for the 3"?
If you meant to say that, then I get it. If not, then how about using D, Dsus2 and Dsus4 to explain what you mean.
Brings to mind a second question: What is the difference between a sus2 and an add2?
Thanks.
I know almost zero about music theory, but I understand 1-4-5 and some basic things like that. I have an ignorant question.
I'd like to understand the concept of "9" and why it's not called "2".
Example, a C9 chord is a C with D added at the high end: x32030.
I understand that D is a "9" of C, so that makes some sense, however, what is the reason to go past 8 (such as in 9, 11, 13)?
In other words (in this specific example), isn't D the "2" of C? If so, why not call it a C2? Is it because the D is in a higher octave?
Thanks,
'Nomikal
Here are a couple of easy ones I use.
An 8-note pattern: Use strings 4-1 only (D, G, B, e). Use thumb on 4, index on 3, middle on 2 and ring on 1. Pick 4-3-2-3-1-2-3-2. Play whatever chord you like with your left hand and it should sound OK. When you get proficient, switch your thumb to the string (6, 5 or 4) which frets the root note of the chord. I use this for Behind Blue Eyes (The Who) and Love Hurts (Nazareth's version).
A 7-note pattern: Again, with strings 4-1, simply 4-3-2-1-2-3-4. I use it for Everybody Hurts (REM) with a little variation on the walkdown G to Em.
Some advice from someone who is just above rank-amateur at fingerpicking: If you want to do it, learn a lot of different styles and patters. Otherwise, all of your songs will sound alike.
Practicing these simple patters will prepare you for learning more complex and song-specific ones, such as More Than a Feeling (Boston) and Dust in the Wind (Kansas).
Good luck,
'Nomikal
A couple of years ago there was a reality show in the US called "The Next Great American Band". I don't normally watch these "American Idol" type shows but I liked this one.
My favorite band were these guys: Sixwire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-UPHBNskY
They came second to a group called the Clark Brothers. I haven't heard anything else from either of them since.
It's Mat Weddle of the band Obadiah Parker (not that that means anything -- right now, anyway).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obadiah_Parker
That is a GREAT version of the song, and it was used as the basis for a cover in a Scrubs episode by Sam Lloyd (Ted the lawyer, if you're familar with the show).
I can answer that one. The version you've heard was likely the one by Tony Christie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn0iP1pAr_4
It had a revival a few years ago as part of UK Comic Relief, mimed by Peter Kay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEm5EDfC-ak
It always made me wonder why Brits would get involved in a song about Amarillo, Texas.
Yep, that's hysterical. I saw it a while back. Apparently Brian and the boys got word about it and invited him on stage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmfnDowX … re=related
Here is Jim on Bob and Tom talking about it. This is funny.
Depends on what your definition of "TOP" is, I guess. For example, Smoke on the Water is probably the most recognizable riff in rock and roll, but it's so simple that it's one of the first things a kid can learn to play. So it might fit in my list of "classic" riffs (along with Purple Haze, Jumpin' Jack Flash, My Sharona, etc.), but not in my list of "awesome sounding" riffs.
So, here are some of my favorite "awesone sounding" riffs:
- Long Train Runnin' (agree with phil)
- Intro to "Lay it Down" (Ratt - btw: I don't care much for this band, but the guitar work in this song is spectacular)
- Intro to Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love (Van Halen)
- Classical Gas (Mason Williams)
- Dust in the Wind (Kansas)
Here are a couple of versions.
do you guys think that extra light guage strings would do the trick.
I recall reading in another post where someone had recommended lighter gauge strings to aid in barre chords on a 12 string. Sounds like it should help.
However, this could also be another reason to tune the 12 string down a semitone or two (to make barring easier), at least until you build a bit more clamping strength with your fret hand.
Guys, I'm not following you.
Is this the thing that George Benson sometimes does during his solos?
Thanks for all of the good information. I appreciate it.
Toots:
You rock! (Literally, apparently.)
Thanks loads.
'nom
A fun song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqT3b12LbqQ
I can't find the chords anywhere online, so I'm trying to work it out for myself. I think I've got the chorus, but I can't get the verses right.
Each verse has a pattern which repeats four times, starting with the lyric "Woo-hoo" each time.
Put a capo on fret 2.
My guess for the verse pattern is: Em - C - A - B7, but again, I don't think it's right.
Help on the verse pattern by someone with a better ear than mine would be appreciated.
Thanks,
'Nom
PS: My guess at the chorus: C - G - B7 - Em - C - G - B7 (twice).
Last month I bought a Martin D12X1 acoustic. It sounds great and I really like it.
Since I bought it I've heard some people say that you should keep a 12 string tuned down 1 to 2 semitones in order to reduce tension stress on the neck (to slow down the inevitable warping), and then use a capo on fret 1 or 2 to play in normal tuning.
But I've also heard other people say that it doesn't make enough difference (i.e., reduce the stress enough) to be worth it. Also, the dealer I bought it from told me a lot of things about how to care for it, but didn't mention the lower tuning tip.
So, I'd like to hear from any long(er) term 12 string owners. Which camp are you in, and why?
Thanks,
'nomikal
Let me clarify. I mean, a search engine for the MESSAGE BOARDS.
(The section we are in right now is called "Forum", which is what I used in my original post. Sorry for the confusion.)
If I wanted to see if my particular question has already been answered, it would be handy to be able to search the message boards before posting.
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EDIT: NEVER MIND !!! I found it. I didn't see the "Search" link to the left of the "Profile" link.
Thanks anyway.
'Nom.
Has there ever been any consideration to adding a search engine/feature to the forums? It would come in handy from time-to time.
Just a thought.
'Nomikal
PS: This has probably been asked before. If there was a search feature I could have checked. ;-)
Sorry, couldn't resist.
3. Are there some good songs that will help with this?
A few that I use to practice this are:
1. Behind Blue Eyes (The Who) - simple (strings) 4-3-2-3-1-2-3-2 picking pattern over the chord changes in the verses.
2. More than a Feeling (Boston) - I finally learned the pattern/tab after watching tutorials on YouTube and practicing it until I drove my family crazy.
3. Love Hurts (Nazareth, et. al.) - same pattern as Behind Blue Eyes above.
I usually pick the verses and find a spot (bridge or chorus) where it makes sense to start strumming.
Papa is right about the anchor point, but I would recommend just using your pinky to anchor and keeping your ring finger free to pick (i.e., pick with thumb and three fingers).
Bottom line: The only "preferred" way is your way. Find a style that feels semi-comfortable and then practice to perfect it. Eventually it will feel natural.
'Nomikal
resprod -
Russell is exactly right, but if you like the fingering you're using in the normal EADGBe tuning, you can always tune each string DOWN one semitone. I think this is the tuning McCartney used when recording "Yesterday" (for example).
Get a good digital tuner which will pick up Eb-low, Ab, Db, Gb, Bb and eb-high and then you should be OK.
Tuning down is OK, but I wouldn't try to do it more than TWO semitones because you're likely to get a lot of buzzing.
'Nom
Oh and it is a lot easier for me to build "A" with one finger not 3,,aint enuff room in the house down there.From tip of pinkey finger to tip of thumb measures an even 9 1/2 inches.and I am right handed ,that was my left hand measurement.,
I feel your pain. Just for giggles I measured my left hand. I'm right-handed also, and I'm 10.25 inches from tip of pinky to thumb.
I find it easy to make an A using fingers 2-4 rather than 1-3.
NGD for me today (3/20), baby!
I don't have a photo sharing locale, but here she is:
http://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/cho … mp;m=D12X1
Guitar Center is having a closeout (600 bucks), so I played around with it and fell in love. It sounds like an orchestra; MUCH better (IMO) than the Taylor, which was 3X the cost. My brother-in-law and I bought the last two in the store.
I'm a happy camper. Now I just need to (re)learn how to play (a 12 string is just a "bit" different). Now I know why I wasn't able to match the sounds of certain songs (e.g. Give a Little Bit - Supertramp, Wish You Were Here - PF). I've got it now. :-)
Happy NGD to me!
'Nomikal
I'm going to . . . practice, practice, practice. Thanks again everyone.
Tony:
I know EXACTLY what you're going through. I can strum pretty well, and sing not quite as well, but when I combine the two, well, let's just say it's not pretty, but it's much better than a month ago.
As someone else said, both are mutually distracting, so the key is to remove one of the distractions and concentrate on the remaining one. One thing I've found useful is to whistle or hum instead of singing. It's more mindless. Do this until the strumming pattern becomes engrained. It may take dozens of hours of practice (at least it did for me and I'm still not great at it). But eventually, you will be able to sing while maintaining a strumming rhythm.
One other trap to avoid: Learn multiple strumming patterns. otherwise, all of your songs will sound too much alike.
Good luck.
'Nom
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