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And the next time be sure to tell your teacher that you haven't heard the song he's asking you to learn ! It will help you both.

I taught my youngest daughter and now she wipes the floor with me every time. She plays it in school.

For me it's a source of pride - and deep frustration - at one and the same time !

I was working Saturday and just got back in time for the match. We had welsh participants over for the day and I opened the meeting wishing everyone a good day, unless they were welsh - in which case I would wish them a good day after the match. It was all good fun.

Watched the game with my daughter, both of us were up to high dough by the end. I had to take a walk to calm down. Jones final penalty attempt had me walking around the coffee table thinking we had thrown it away.

It's been an incredible week for my daughter - her school rugby team won the Schools cup (u18) and the Medallion (u16), she sang for the school at Belfast's Waterfront hotel mid-week and then the Grand-slam - AND she's off to see Snow Patrol tonight. That's the kind of week you like to see come around once in a while!

Great song, Selso. Really liked the guitar, it has a vintage country feel about it - and kind of edgy - like Johnny Cash. Well done.

They need to be straight brackets on the "song" part of the chopro, not curley ones - same key.

Jeez Phill, now I'm going to have to explain to the kids what "mated" means ; )

So re-name the Poem section "Lyrics" - and leave this non-issue behind. I don't see how a poem section can put anyone off writing songs.

I tend to consider both words and music essential to a song ( and that's not to suggest that instrumentals aren't moving and emotional, Ark and others). Seeing what people could do by adding music to a limerick that I wrote (nod to Phill) started me trying to put the two together.

I've pulled plenty of duds off the old poem-tree over the years. What I've learnt by starting to put music to words ( and that is the way I work, rather than starting with the melody ) is that poems are not lyrics. Lyrics don't have to scan or follow any arcane rules. It's freer and just as expressive. So perhaps calling the section Poems is a bit dismissive?

I want to hone my musical AND lyrical abilities, I want to learn from other writers who put up lyrics, and I want to read wonderful images and feel great thoughts expressed as lyrics. I get that in both the "Poem"  and in the Songwriting section.

So lets call it the Lyrics Section.

Do you have links to the lost songwriters, I'd love to become acquainted with them ?

Thanks everyone.

It's a beautiful place. I will admit that the photographer chose a good day for the shoot. I always think the best weather in Ireland is in May, rather than July/August.

As a kid you don't notice the weather. We would fish and run along the beach in the rain and never notice it.

A few years ago I went back and decided to fish while the kids and herself went in to paint bowls etc in an artists studio tucked just under the cliff. It's a long way out to the best fishing spots, and the rain came on while I was halfway there. The rain was horizontal, so I walked backwards all the way to the car. At least only half of me was soaked ; )

Selso,

Know what you mean about the last verse. I suppose I'm trying to suggest that he has got into the boat, that he still feels close to her, but he is moving away. In the first version of this I did, I was trying to suggest that he was holding a different woman and thinking of the woman on the beach, but it just got too complicated, so I scrapped it.

And may you all have a very happy Paddy's Day.

"I'm going to feel like a real dummy if St. Patrick was not the guy who ran all the snakes out of Ireland."

Naw - he left all the two legged ones behind.

Today on the oul sod we'll be rising late and the evening will be a mystery. In between we'll be watching the school's cups in GAA and Rugby. This year my old school will be playing my daughter's school ( Inst v Methody ), so the stakes are high.

After that, we'll be feasting on mash, cabbage and bacon ribs which is our family tradition. You have to travel into the older parts of town to get the bacon ribs.

I often wondered if you have bacon ribs anywhere else across the world. They are ordinary pork ribs cured like bacon. We boil them hard until the meat is falling off the bone, then cook the cabbage in the stock until it's dead - and then use the stock again to make lentil soup the next day. A real poor man's dinner in these straightening times.

Great thread G-Doc.

I won't add my life poem as nobody would believe it, particularly the rhyme schemes ; )

"5) During my US trips, I can "mimic" even dialects, and I was asked a few times from which state I was.  "

Well, first time I was in Toronto, I was asking a guy ( who had an Italian accent you could whip ice cream with ) where the subway station was and after a few minutes of chat he says to me.

"You know, I can tell you're not a native English speaker - well done !"

UYK,

I know where you are coming from, did you hear Paxman recently described Rabbie Burns' language as "doggerel."

Accents kind of make you stand out. That was a bad thing for me in the seventies in England where you immediately came under suspicion and would get grief from the dimmer elements in bars and snooker halls. However, more recently the Belfast accent has developed an added frisson as a result of the success of Liam Neeson and James Nesbitt - ladies in London do like to hear you talk. It's something to do with a hint of danger and that wee bit of Belfast cheek.

Well, guess I was supposed to be a monk, because I have the tonsure without having to pay for it. And the last two hairs at the front get trimmed once a month. Aside from that I am hair care free - apart from that shampoo that stops the white bits on your shoulders.

You'll be very happy to hear that, in terms of hair colour, grey is the new black. Tom Jones finally came out as a grey wolf on Friday on BBC's Comedy Relief - the black is gone. All he needs to realise now is that he needs to get it cut  - a number two for you sir ?