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Thank YOU Detman,

That was Arthur Conan-Doyle in one of the Sherlock Holmes stories and it stuck with me.

One of my regular "Jamming-For-The-Audience" sessions has a guy who thinks he's brilliant but is the least talented muso there. He tries to drag everyone down to his level by overplaying them or simply slagging them off and will not be told, or even asked, by anyone.

I "announced to the crowd" (for his benefit) that quote and things have been much improved towards me, but he's switched his negative attentions to others. There's still one song (Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out) I've all but stopped playing 'cos he insists on noodling all over the turn around which is supposed to be sparse/staccatto and asking him not to/stopping singing and playing over those bars and every other technique I can think of will not sway him from being a right royal pain.

Moral: You will always meet pains, but follow the advice in my last post and they will (mostly) be easier to deal with.

Hey DevilCat,

Yes it is practise and getting used to doing it by repetition, but here's a cheat for you:

When you do a C chord I'm assuming you use 3rd finger 5th string 3rd fret, 2nd finger 4th string 2nd fret and 1st finger 2nd string 1st fret. What you do is concentrate on getting your 3rd finger to the 2nd string 3rd fret and allow your 1st and 2nd fingers to "find their own way" it will take a few attempts but you should see quicker progress; the ring finger along with the little finger are hard to develop control over, this should get you there quicker. Also working back to the C from D, start with your 3rd finger and let the rest find their own way.

If these two are causing probs, practise changing between them.

Also when finding chords with the fingers, start from the bass strings as these strings are usually played first and you can still be finding the rest of the notes while you start playing the chord.

That last disagrees with the first tip a bit, but the C to D change is one of the exceptions. I was struggling with the second chord in the verse of "Your Song" and kept stumbling on this until I remembered "bass strings first" now my fingers kinda find their own way!

Good luck and get back if you need more help or I've been as clear as mud!

Zurf - you funny! Very, very funny.

I got tears in my eyes and my cheeks hurt funny!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

What's the meaning of the non-musical Bm? Does it have to do with leather and whips?

I used to be into ******, ********** and *********** until I discovered I was flogging a dead horse!

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Hey Micky,

Send me the chords you want and I'll do it fot ya!

The "wrong" chords work really well if you can handle the fast changes.

Hey Hopeful, Roger, NELA and Micky.

Yeah it's how the chords are combined that makes it memorable or enjoyable to play.

One thing my capo can't do for me is help me sing "Somebody to love" by Queen. The original open chords are necessary for the runs and sounding right, but it's just a half or whole semitone too high (and it starts on my favourite singing chord G!). Tuning down doesn't sound right and my capo (Kaiser) won't fit at the 10th, let alone 11th fret because of the heel coming down the neck. Oh well, if I have a remote control tightening a vice on my dangly bits at th right moments, maybe I won't need to worry about capos and keys!

Hey Micky, I did Blaydon Races last night. The whole place was singing along. And talking of chords, where there's nothing new or unusual in this song, their combination on the chorus makes for interesting playing - great fun and good exercise!!!

And beware! It's not your vice but other peoples that can really cause you damage!

Good times.

Good mates.

Good beers.

Good weather.

Goodness me!

Hope you had a good birthday Riverdales!

Hey again Arkady. No worries, mate.

In order; Yes that's pretty much it. What you need to do tho' is monitor your songs through naff computer speakers to hear how they make your songs sound. Again with calibrating your ears you need to hear what those speakers do to production music (stuff you've paid for) especially those in a similar genre.

16 bit 44.1 KHz (CD standard) all the way - if you have the facility. Don't know OGG or M4A so wav would be the standard I'd recommend out of the choices.

It's best to record it, mix it, master it, burn it AND BACK IT UP all at CD (or better) and convert to MP3 as and when you need to from the better quality audio. If you have the facility to record at CD or better then do so; when you convert to MP3 you will lose something that even the most expensive algorithms cannot put back inaudibly if you go from MP3 to CD!!!

Good whiskey is kept neat in the bottle for those who can taste it to enjoy it to its' fullest and only diluted with coke when it's in the glass! You can't take the coke back out to leave the whiskey as original!

Nice call Stonebridge!

Didn't know about Windmills of Your Mind starting as French, not my favouritest song in the English. I'll have to check out If You Go Away - another song I don't know. The title Yesterday When I was Young feels like I should know it although I know Charles Aznavour.

This is great! I post a thread then get to check out lots of new choons!

Cool as Mustard!

Haley Westonra anyone?

Thanks Alvee33 and aabb.

A FITA 60cm target (as you know) is 12cm accroos the gold and 18cm across the red. A clout is usually a stick or flag in the ground with a long chord that can twirl around the stick with different diametre distances marked along it's length. The Gold measure would be 12" with a further 12" (24" from stick) for Red. So a gold would be 24" or 2 feet acrosswith the red 4ft across. The two feet is representative of the area yer average middle ages man would occupy, but different organisations have different rules and measures . This discipline of archery being the forerunner of artillery shooting - dropping the arrows onto the target from a distance. The words "Artillery" and "Archery" are corruptions of Arc Tirer - the French for Shoot a bow and FITA Federation Internationale de Tir a l'Arc, the international governing body, is French where we came in.

Hit it again today! Twicw!!

When I started seriously gigging it was the late eighties and early nineties. Dance music, specifically electric/house/d'n'b etc was all the thing.

The effects of musical tastes cahange and vary. At that time I couldn't get a repeat booking (maybe 5% rebooking rate) most people didn't want to hear someone sitting playing the guitar reasonably well and accompanying themselves singing. Everyone wanted backing tracks. Just drums and electric bass, it fills things out adding to your sound - rebooking rate 98%.

But it got to the point where I was on auto pilot without having to think what I was playing/singing, I was thinking about how long the journey home would take, what was to eat at home, etc.

I switched off, I stopped gigging.

Now there is a good market of small venues whose customers will appreciate a decent solo performer.

Will I go back to backing tracks? I might, the money would have to be right and I would have to be able to make my own rather than get them from my agent. I would rather be paid proportionally for my experience by people who enjoy what I do.

Cameron, Mickey and anyone for whom backing tracks will improve their practising or help them make a buck ('s long's you pay yer dues!) good luck and go for it.

I'd be Game Knee Apple Adams.

Detman and anyone with barre chord bass string contact issues try this:

When you barre a C at the 3rd it's quicker and easier to use the 1st finger to bar all strings 3rd fret as normal, but if you use the whole top segment of your left 3rd (wedding ring) finger flattened you can cover 2nd 3rd and 4th strings with this. You also get to use your middle finger to help by reinforcing the 1st with pushing on the barre.

If you can get that you can use the same technique in the Gbarre@3 position but using the 3rd finger to cover the 5th and 6th string. The 3rd string will get covered but a, you can set up a blues rhythm with the bottom 3 strings and b, if you play the 3rd string this is a Suspended 4th (sus4) shape and might sound nice occaisionally coming through - BUT

You get to use your middle finger to help and you'll find you won't need it's help for long!!!