Zurf wrote:Well at noontime, she came out with all the work done. I checked it, and she did a pretty good job of it. Now, so much of it is late that her grades are still going to stink (they better anyway - I want the teacher to take off points for tardiness), but she did it. So, we went out and did some Christmas shopping and got ice cream as we had planned.
Sounds like excellent parenting to me.
I'm by no means an expert at this. I favor corporal punishment at home and in schools, but I don't think it is necessary to beat a kid into submission. The key is to break the will, but not the spirit.
I have found (mainly by watching what I consider to be gross errors made by other parents), that what needs to be done is set boundaries and establish cause and effect. For example: "if you do/don't do [this], then [this] will be the result." That can be both positive and negative, and you really need both. Make the kid understand that there are consequences for their actions.
Most parents try to do this, but where they screw up is that the don't follow through on the consequences side. When this happens, kids learn to manipulate and get what they want, regardless of the cause and effect that they were told about.
As much as it can hurt, parents MUST follow though with "threats". As I was trying to say earlier, this is especially effective if the consequences prevent older siblings from having their fun, because the older siblings' "peer pressure" can do a lot of your dirty work for you.
Glad it turned out OK for you Zurf. Again, nice work from my vantage point.
Late Edit: When my son was about 6 years old his cousins (my wife's brother's kids) were visiting. The cousins started acting up (fighting) and would not settle down after repeated attempts at intervention. I heard their mom say: "I'm going to count to three . . ."
I immediately looked at my son and said: "Understand this: I don't count. When I tell you to do something, it gets done. Understood?"
My son and I are best friends now. He has often thanked me for the way I raised him. My advice to him now is: Be a better parent than I was. Learn from my mistakes and make your kids better than you are. I believe if we can do that, the world will get better over time, and not worse.