Living in Europe, we know Tom Petty, but that's it for the most of us.
Is he really popular and loved in the USA, is he considered as a "top musician and composer" It is always difficult to give an opinion on something or somebody you don't know.
Who can tell me more about that man?
2,576 2007-07-31 10:33:39
Topic: TOM PETTY (8 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
2,577 2007-07-31 10:29:44
Topic: MY SWEET LORD!!!!!!! (3 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
I still have it very difficult about the Chiffons He's so Fine and Harissons My Sweet Lord"
You can hear some "similarity" but a 100% plagiarism?
Didn't they suit George because of his fame? or does anyone here agrees, or disagrees? There are probably thousands of songs like this.
The Doors: Hello, I love you versus The Kinks: all day and all night.
If you base yourself on the fact that the most used chords are A B C D E F G , it sounds logic that a lot of songs are similar.
I even have all The Fleetwood Mac songs, and one of their songs, has an identical intro as the track before. For me it was confusing, I was thinking that I recorded the same song twice.
PURE HYPOTHETICAL: You write a song, but you have a signed contract with a Label, but you change label 1 week later, and the first song composed while you have a new contract with a new label, is almost exactly the same as the song before, ARE YOU FACING LAWSUITS?
2,578 2007-07-31 10:07:26
Topic: AGAIN A TOP 3 : BEATLES (8 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
Favourite Beatles albums.
First, this "me", personal, I don't like "SERGEANT PEPPER's even if it is an album that is written by a God.
My list is, I admit probably influenced a lot by my age back then:
- THE WHITE ALBUM
- ABBEY ROAD
- LET IT BE
I like to add also Rubber Soul, where they changed style, more very catchy tunes, and starting to play a new style, less yeah yeah's. I have a book about the evolution of their music, from simple tunes using more and more difficult chords.
THE MOST UNDERESTIMATED BEATLE IS GEORGE HARISSON, responsible for songs covered by thousands of artists especially "Something."
2,579 2007-07-31 09:45:10
Re: pink floyd top 3 albums (19 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
I am more and more amazed here.
Ask anybody on the street GIVE ME 3 NAMES OF PINK FLOYD ALBUMS, you will have probably the answer Dark side of the moon, and maybe the WALL.
It is so difficult to answer that question, but I am surprised.
I was convinced that the number one should be DSof the M, while I preffered far more THE WALL, and WISH YOU WERE HERE. I noticed that talking their albums before Dark side, Meddle is appreciated by a lot, more than MORE, and when listening to MEDDLE, it is a typical PF album, but more open for their public.
If you start listening to their albums, you can notice the evolution to a lot nicer melodies, and the evolution to the PF we all know. I really forgot about ANIMALS, it is together with the WALL, maybe their best album.
Who remembers FLEETWOOD MAC, from a 100% blues orientated group, I have every FM song, you can see on a certain moment, the path they start taking leading us to RUMOURS.
I don't know if there are groups who make an album, and their next album is entirely different.
Bee Gees: same story, you can consider their album mr natural as the beginning of their new style, confirmed on "main course"
2,580 2007-07-31 09:31:35
Topic: PUNK mother of GROUPS like NIRVANA (2 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
Punk really changed a lot in the evolution of music. You had in the late seventies, disco, punk, and main stream music, like the Eagles, on the other hand Motorhead, Aerosmith.
In the eighties a whole new generation groups started to be famous: The Human League, Culture Club, the so called "NEW WAVE" music. I heard that their music was the legacy of punk. A fact that I can't believe. Who knows more about this?
2,581 2007-07-31 09:25:10
Re: your top 10 punk songs of all time (9 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
except for the Sex Pistols, I am not able to make a list, even having almost the same age of the original PUNK performers. I think it was a special period, and I preferred the "good old groups" like Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin. I do remember me "historic, or hilarious quotes concerning other groups, accusing them as money machines. But I am convinced that it was a special "era" from 1975 up to 1985 where people start talking about new wave
2,582 2007-07-31 09:18:13
Re: devil songs or satanic messages (77 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
I was on the site you named, but I didn't hear or I didn' understood "hidden messages"
2,583 2007-07-31 09:13:19
Re: Hands up, I'm guilty tie me up and shoot me (16 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
I was on your website acme, looks interesting.
About accents in the USA:
THIS REALLY FELT WEIRD: I was busy to follow route 66, and I still call this holiday as the BLUES vacation. Starting in Chicago (Chicago blues) Saint Louis (again blues) driving through MISSOURI, I was told that this state is often called MISERY, so IS THIS STATE really so poor? But I drove from the North to the South, to end at a crossroad one to Arkansas the other to Tennessee, where I had to be in Memphis and Nashville, going back to Louisiana (New Orleans, another music stop) and to Houston (Texas Blues) THIS WAS MY BEST HOLIDAY I EVER HAD. Coming back to Missouri, the WEIRD fact was, stopping to eat, going back South, I stopped as usual to enter a Pawnshop. The ACCENT there was 100% southern, 10 miles earlier it was still 100% Northern accent: where do you Americans draw the line between NORTH and SOUTH?
2,584 2007-07-31 08:59:11
Re: Sounds? (4 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
If you want more information about "artistic perceptions" there is scientific proof of this" the human brain has 2 hemispheres, containing every information. They start to put the human brain on a map and everything is controlled in your brain, if you touch for example, a hot item, it goes up to that centre, in your brain, responsible for heath and cold perception, the response or reaction goes immediately to your hand, telling it is too hot, so you will drop that hot item. It all happens in a split second. There is also a centre responsible for the artistic part, another: see, hear, behaviour. It is very interesting stuff, and easy to find on google.
2,585 2007-07-31 08:50:08
Re: Songwriters question - How do you remember music that's in your head? (3 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
That is the reason I posted a topic about a small device you stick on a guitar, because when playing a real great lick, or solo, but when you try it 10 minutes later: it's gone. I love the cellular phone option, never heard of it.
2,586 2007-07-31 08:46:08
Topic: In addition of MUSIC versus LYRICS (1 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
Here we go again, talking about Pink Floyd.
Where or WHO can say: I LOVED PINK FLOYD FROM THEIR FIRST SONG. " I CAN'T.
I never heard about pink Floyd until a day that someone gave me an album: atom heart mother.
Being young, speaking and understanding English very difficult, I was just able to judge the music: conclusion back then: not BAD, but at that time it was all CCR, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and Slade. Second row: a little bit Bee Gees (I remember me as if it was yesterday, SAVED BY THE BELL) I am speaking about the 16 years old little man, (VERY innocent and of course harming nobody), the oldest of 5 kids, maybe sometimes I did some things, my parents didn't like, but feeling "holy" you accept this. (hahahaha)., there was also 2525, and some spirits in the sky. BUT I return back to Pink Floyd. Friends who are a little bit older remember that they went to a concert, just 5 miles from where I lived, and for a few $$, they saw Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac. At that time the music (in Europe) was entirely dominated by the Beatles, The Stones, The Who, the Kinks, and only real music lovers saw the concert. My younger sister (who became a proffesional ballerina), performed once a dance, with others on the song ONE OF THESE DAYS, from the album Meddle.
That very moment was "the turning point" because I started to love them more and more, and the song, it took me 6 months before I knew it was Pink Floyd, and suddenly: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON: unbelievable. I was absorbed 100% by pink floyd.
So this is my Pink Floyd story. What is yours? (I don't believe you loved them from the first album, except for the older chordians, I am 51, the music was very strange.
Now, I am a huge Pink Floyd lover.
SO WHAT IS YOUR STORY ABOUT YOUR RELATION WITH PINK FLOYD
2,587 2007-07-31 08:24:51
Topic: MUSIC versus LYRICS = BEAUTY versus CHARACTER (0 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
About music and lyrics: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HEARING A SONG FOR THE FIRST TIME: Do you just listen to the music, and not to the lyrics, or do you start with the lyrics.
I have an almost identical theory. When "boy meets girl, or girl meets boy" I think that everyone of us starts to look ONLY to the body of a nice human being, and not at all, because a lot of people still tell that the looks are not important. Bull***, if I see a beautiful girl, ... I see... BEAUTIFUL.., just this phrase tells me a lot. You always start with what you see, and later on you start to explore (lyrics) and (in a man's case) the innerside. That can be sometimes VERY disappointing. What I mean is when you hear a song: the melody is the most important part, but after hearing that song 3 times, and with (baby) lyrics, yo start to dislike that song.
I agree that in a lot of cases, see early pink floyd we have to listen more than once, before appreciating the song.
2,588 2007-07-31 08:13:27
Re: Pachelbels Canon D major. (5 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
Hey "doll" if you play the canon of Pachelbel, you can start singing the very same time: rain and tears (Aphrodite's child) and also very very similar: let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London (ralph mctell).
More it is so funny, we tried it, but you need a headset, to play these 3 songs: one plays the canon on piano, one plays( and sings) rain and tears and another one plays (and sings) streets of London.
If you can put those 3 songs, with the help of a sound engineer (if needed) you will be amazed.
2,589 2007-07-31 08:06:55
Re: spinal tap moments and other curiosities (23 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
never heard that one.
The most IRONIC song I EVER HEARD IS: LEAVING ON A JET PLANE, by JOHN DENVER. That song is in fact so ironic, but I feel sorry for Denver, he composed some great tunes, and he is also an example for the most of us, in our process to improve our skill to play guitar.
2,590 2007-07-31 08:02:18
Re: open that DOOR (5 replies, posted in Chordie's Chat Corner)
In fact, I am no Doors lover too. It is again the same old story, music was like mentionned above the privilege of MANZAREK and KRIEGER. I really doubt, with that kind of music, if they should be as popular as now. They still sell 1.000.000 albums a year. I want to ask, and I think that "pretty boy" Jim put the doors on the music map, because the way he performed, and sometimes in a really disgusting way, that just because of his behaviour the Doors became BIG, and like always, dead people sell more records than living people. Is or was he a great poet? I don't know, but I do agree that his lyrics where quit great. Not like, I love you, I need you.
Bringing me always back to the point, what is the most important for a group? the "melody" or the "lyrics"
2,591 2007-07-31 07:52:14
Topic: Tribute bands (0 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
There has to be a lot of "tribute bands" but were can you draw a line, and does anybody has an idea of them. I heard that some of them are better than the original, and which group is most used, as example to start a tribute band, like the Beatles, like Abba ( a nice name for a tribute band should be Baba.
2,592 2007-07-31 07:47:54
Topic: RAP: the beginning (3 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
When did this music style saw daylight? Where does it come from, and the "gangster" (rap) image is it real. Sometimes I read that a lot of "criminals" started to rap.
2,593 2007-07-31 07:45:35
Topic: INSTRUMENTAL GROUPS (0 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
COMPARE/
VENTURES VERSUS SHADOWS
They were, are both great, and shadows. The original members were founder Ken Pavey , Terry Smart on drums , Norman Mitham on guitar , Ian Samwell on guitar and Harry Webb (= Cliff Richard) on guitar and vocals. They called themselves the drifters, but in the USA, was a group with the same name. For a short period : Cliff Richard and the drifters. Changing members: hank marvin (lead) and bruce welch (rhythm guitar). They performed a long time without bass player, until the change of the line up, Samwell: bass.
Here in Europe they had a huge success as Cliff Richards band & as band alone.
The "tribute bands" in Europe: impossible to count. My best friends plays bass in such a band, sometimes they have a gig, and the lead guitar, played by an aquantance is almost exactly kike they played.
He even has the "Burns" like Hank Marvin played (special, & expensive serie) and the fender stratocaster too. Don't ask him to play another NON SHADOWS song, because he is lost.
About the ventures, I just know that they are "ANOTHER SEATTLE band", sold over 110 million albums, but were not really "that" popular in the USA, but big in Europe, and in Japan.Who knows more about this groups.
2,594 2007-07-31 07:18:24
Re: well of course the acoustic guitar (10 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
Morning to you all. Boot , you're the "MAN" here on this subject.
I thought it wasn't Martin with the braced structure. I did mention Japanese guitars, but I can make a new topic, like what if, about electrics.
I still have my acoustic Yamaha, 30 years old this month and very good sounding, but things need to be repaired.
2,595 2007-07-30 17:19:10
Re: Hendrix: Teeth Playing (15 replies, posted in Electric)
If you can play with your teeth and a string is broken, you can still use the string to have perfect placed teeth. It is a skill, BUT IS HE THE ONLY TOOTH PLAYER?
2,596 2007-07-30 17:16:04
Re: Anyone around my age? (73 replies, posted in Electric)
I am 51 years young, playing 26 years now, and BTW, we discuss most of the topics in public, not using email addresses posted by members, unless some things are more private. At least I use emails belonging to members for more private information. We try to share our knowledge and skills, to help, and to learn, only possible if we can read the topics.
We, the senior group, are greedy to know what the "juniors" like, what are their passions, music, guitars, and skills.
WELCOME to the friendly, open and honest chordie colony
2,597 2007-07-30 17:05:27
Topic: destroying your guitar or not? (6 replies, posted in Acoustic)
I own a Martin, electro-acoustic, sounds great, but I own also very high priced guitars without electronics. I do have a 2 mics, and an acoustic amp and placing these mics in front of a guitar, trying to avoid "feedback". I am just afraid to put preamps in it, destroying in a way of speaking my instrument.
2,598 2007-07-30 16:21:41
Re: well of course the acoustic guitar (10 replies, posted in Guitars and accessories)
I am thinking almost the same, but I do own also (because I collect them too) more than 1 Martin.
Price/quality, one of my best guitars is the D-15, a mahagony, dark brown Martin, with a more soft, but incredible sound. My HD-28 blows without amp, everything away. But I also have a Gibson Montana Gold SJ-200, with an amazing sound, a Dove, more metallic sound, and Hummingbird.
It is, owning these guitars sometimes difficult to tell which one is the best. I don't know if I am right, but I NOTICED THAT SOME SONGS, sound better with my SJ-200, and others with my Martin D-45, or D-28. It is all a question of taste, but also the song is important.
2,599 2007-07-30 10:26:14
Topic: wacko jacko (0 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
I feel really sorry for him, he never had the opportunity to be and act as a child, because of the fact that he performed when he was almost a baby.
One thing I can't understand is, being the owner of the songs of the Beatles (I think he sold them back) that every time they plaid yesterday: $$$$$$, in fact if you are able to write a song, selling millions of copies AND WITH A DECENT CONTRACT, a thing that we, getting a lot older, would subscribe knowing exactly how, is almost impossible when young, 20 years, BLINDED by SUCCESS, they just sign to earn fast $$$.
- How is it possible that he could purchase those rights?
- He is still a child, and will always be, and contact with other kids is a very normal thing when you ARE a kid.
- The fact that he, considered once as the richest artist on earth, lost so much money. SHARKS, EMPLOYEES KISSING HIS FEET (but CERTAINLY NOT FOR FREE) all the money he paid to avoid law suits?? I think if as parent you just mentioned that your son stayed with Michael, they want his money so bad, that it makes me sick.
Guikty or not: situations like this makes me sick, when I see how greedy people are.
I love money, who doesn't, but I am maybe a curiosity, having a few relations with billionaire girls, and when I knew it I broke the relation because I don't want to be owned by... Sometimes I regret a relation, she was so beautiful, sweet, but addicted very bad to alcohol. I am just writing stuff not belonging here, I just wanted to tell, using myself, how most of the people are.
And once the $$$ source is dry, they start writing about their experiences.
2,600 2007-07-30 10:08:45
Re: money, money, it's a rich man's world (7 replies, posted in Bands and artists)
To add a funny fact: the father of Mick Jagger died a few weeks ago, and Mick didn't get 1£, because he was rich enough.
The fact about selling albums (stones) is like you say, they are just a living legend, at these days more because of their concerts, and I really would like to know how many big bangers were sold.
For me: one of their best albums is VOODOO LOUNGE, containing songs like "blinded by rainbows" and a few more.